Successful TI Swimmer

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At the risk of touching off another flame war... Please let the record reflect that Adrienne Binder, a self described Total Immersion swimmer, posted the following results at NCAA Div. I Championships: 1650 Free - 15:57.64 3rd georgiadogs.collegesports.com/.../060316F015.htm 400 IM - 4:11.83 4th georgiadogs.collegesports.com/.../060316F008.htm 500 Free - 4:41.99 4th georgiadogs.collegesports.com/.../060316F002.htm Acknowledging the caveat that she is a Junior at Auburn Univ. and therefore has been swimming in their program for three years and therefore is not a "pure" TI swimmer (to the extent the results of any swimmer can be purely attributed to one coach, program or school of technique and training). This pretty clearly demonstrates that it is possible to "succeed" at the highest levels of competition while using TI principles. This is not to say that everyone will "succeed" using TI, or that everyone can "succeed" using TI, or indeed that TI necessarily has value for everyone. However, we ain't the ones hollering "Show me a world class TI swimmer!" Well, there you have it. Matt
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    Ah, the irrationality is as satisfying as it is predictable. Frankly, the discussion fora had become a little stale lately. Gull-meister, please note the delicious circularity of your argument. "TI stinks because it has never produced a world-class swimmer." Well, how about Adrienne Binder? She seems to be pretty fast. "It has to be Auburn, and not TI, because I have already demonstrated TI stinks." Seriously, my point is a very small one. I'm not saying TI is great for everyone, or trying to change anyone's mind on whether they like it or not. You're entitled to your opinions. I'm just trying to thoroughly stomp on the misleading chestnut that holds, "TI can't produce world class swimmers." The right swimmer, with the right coach, and years of training and practice, can become world class using TI principles. It can and it has worked, so let's please take that part of the argument off of the table. Matt the Troublemaker
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    Ah, the irrationality is as satisfying as it is predictable. Frankly, the discussion fora had become a little stale lately. Gull-meister, please note the delicious circularity of your argument. "TI stinks because it has never produced a world-class swimmer." Well, how about Adrienne Binder? She seems to be pretty fast. "It has to be Auburn, and not TI, because I have already demonstrated TI stinks." Seriously, my point is a very small one. I'm not saying TI is great for everyone, or trying to change anyone's mind on whether they like it or not. You're entitled to your opinions. I'm just trying to thoroughly stomp on the misleading chestnut that holds, "TI can't produce world class swimmers." The right swimmer, with the right coach, and years of training and practice, can become world class using TI principles. It can and it has worked, so let's please take that part of the argument off of the table. Matt the Troublemaker
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