End of the Auburn reign?

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Are we closing in on the end of the current Auburn dynasty of NCAA championships this year ? Will Stanford come through this time? I've heard that Texas had an extremely good recruiting year this year. John Smith
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    Geek, You have yet to prove to ME that training with a top 8 (i.e. finalist) international athlete provides better results to athletes on the same team than training with a US athlete that is for example only top 16. You have yet to definitively prove these wonderful benefits of inviting foreigners to train on our collegiate teams other than increasing point scores. You have yet to show me a foreign athlete that has come to the US to train and successfully returned to their foreign country and publicly thanked their US coaches and teamates for a large portion of their success. Oh.. I forgot.... we're a rich nation and we "owe" them. Oh... I forgot... we're the only nation with great swim programs on the planet and we always win all the gold medals in the Olympics like in the 1970s..... WRONG! You have yet to acknowledge that by training foreign athletes we are merely aiding the competition at the Olympics..... and if you don't think it's a personal war when you get up on the blocks at the Olympics you are clearly out of touch with the word...... "competition". It's not about sharing when you dive in the pool at that level Geek. This is not an age group foreign exchange meet. You have yet to acknowledge that swimming has extremely limited scholarship funds and that every dollar taken by a foreign athlete is effectively NOT taken by a US citizen. That citizen is forced to his/her 2nd, 3rd choice of college or even worse. Actually, I'd rather we discuss the fact that Michael Phelps and others... (Aaron Peirsol) are not allowed to swim at the NCAAs due to their professional status. This to me is pathetic. It down grades the meet. The NCAA needs to change. John Smith
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    Geek, You have yet to prove to ME that training with a top 8 (i.e. finalist) international athlete provides better results to athletes on the same team than training with a US athlete that is for example only top 16. You have yet to definitively prove these wonderful benefits of inviting foreigners to train on our collegiate teams other than increasing point scores. You have yet to show me a foreign athlete that has come to the US to train and successfully returned to their foreign country and publicly thanked their US coaches and teamates for a large portion of their success. Oh.. I forgot.... we're a rich nation and we "owe" them. Oh... I forgot... we're the only nation with great swim programs on the planet and we always win all the gold medals in the Olympics like in the 1970s..... WRONG! You have yet to acknowledge that by training foreign athletes we are merely aiding the competition at the Olympics..... and if you don't think it's a personal war when you get up on the blocks at the Olympics you are clearly out of touch with the word...... "competition". It's not about sharing when you dive in the pool at that level Geek. This is not an age group foreign exchange meet. You have yet to acknowledge that swimming has extremely limited scholarship funds and that every dollar taken by a foreign athlete is effectively NOT taken by a US citizen. That citizen is forced to his/her 2nd, 3rd choice of college or even worse. Actually, I'd rather we discuss the fact that Michael Phelps and others... (Aaron Peirsol) are not allowed to swim at the NCAAs due to their professional status. This to me is pathetic. It down grades the meet. The NCAA needs to change. John Smith
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