Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible!

Does fast kicking with a board help though? I'm a fast flutter kicker with a board, but not when I swim freestyle, especially for more than a 50. How do you integrate the kick with the stroke? Over kicking drills? Or just plain swimming freestyle and being aware of your kick? If it's only the latter, I think I'll pass for now. Once I started doing flutter kick sprints, my stroke felt different. This week I've been kicking with my ankles a little higher, taking fewer strokes per length, and using a straight-arm recovery. These things feel like they are related. Like, I'm more aware my kick and the need for high ankles in fast kicking, and in order to keep my stroke rate up while doing that I have to windmill.

are you faster? when you go 21.0 it's more difficult to drop time hope faster kicking helps you get there ande Like you pointed out, it's difficult to measure without a stopwatch. I've been doing some 25s and 50s and they are pretty quick, although not as fast as when I was shaved and rested in the weeks before Nationals.

Fort, How do you integrate the kick with the stroke? When you do sprints with rest, concentrate on blasting your legs. Also work on blasting your legs over 15's, 25's, 50's 75's & 100's you need to develop some speed endurance for your kick How about synchronizing kicking with the stroke ? I think that for a slower kicker that improve to be a decent/good/awersome kicker the crucial step is integrate the kick into the stroke, at the end of day there's no race about kicking only. Kicking without any connections with the rest of body don't look at all like the way to go, just look at World-class swimmers. Ande and/or anyone, can you throw in some drills/suggestions to work at syncronizing the kick with the stroke, so even some members of The Club : Horrible Flutter kicker can add the famous 6-beats kick at your arsenal a day ? regards

Ande, IMHO, hits it right on the head: Stop lazy legs. I think the whole point of the thread is this: To go as fast as possible, you need to use every weapon in your arsenal, and there are a lot of people - including me - who think their legs make them slower, and they need to learn that their legs can make them faster, even if it's just a little bit. My goals are so modest compared with what most people here can do; but now, when I'm in the water and want to speed up, I think: How can my legs help? And with practice, I've found that my legs are one more way to speed up. That change in attitude is probably the biggest thing I will get from this thread.

Does fast kicking with a board help though? I'm a fast flutter kicker with a board, but not when I swim freestyle, especially for more than a 50. How do you integrate the kick with the stroke? Over kicking drills? Or just plain swimming freestyle and being aware of your kick? If it's only the latter, I think I'll pass for now.

Update Today I did 12x25 flutter kick with a board, every fourth one fast. :15 :14 :14 Definitely faster after less than one week.

now the whole point is to make your legs as useful as possible some swimmers are struggling to break 30, 25, or 20 with their 25 kick while others can break 15 the very fastest swimmers can break 12 and 11 there are some swimmers who can SDK a 25 under 10.0 everyone can improve find out how fast you are then train to go even faster ande Ande, IMHO, hits it right on the head: Stop lazy legs. I think the whole point of the thread is this: To go as fast as possible, you need to use every weapon in your arsenal, and there are a lot of people - including me - who think their legs make them slower, and they need to learn that their legs can make them faster, even if it's just a little bit. My goals are so modest compared with what most people here can do; but now, when I'm in the water and want to speed up, I think: How can my legs help? And with practice, I've found that my legs are one more way to speed up. That change in attitude is probably the biggest thing I will get from this thread.

now the whole point is to make your legs as useful as possible some swimmers are struggling to break 30, 25, or 20 with their 25 kick while others can break 15 the very fastest swimmers can break 12 and 11 there are some swimmers who can SDK a 25 under 10.0 everyone can improve find out how fast you are then train to go even faster ande Ande, I just hope you are talking about yards and not meters there! I am still struggling to break 21 for 25m SFK. I have made really good progress with my SDK but not so much with my SFK. Part of the reason is that I spend more time on the SDK. It is such a great feeling when it is coming right and your feet are biting that water. I just don't get the same satisfaction from doing SFK. I am also still struggling to integrate it into my full stroke, though. But like you say you need to concentrate on kicking on every length of every set - not just kicking sets. It takes time to overcome bad habits.

good job now you have a time to beat was that yards or meters it helps to correctly split kicking sprints you can't go all out and do the best time you're capable of ande Update Timed a 50 flutter kick with a board today, 35 seconds. I faded big time. My :roids: power just evaporated on the back half.

Update Timed a 50 flutter kick with a board today, 35 seconds. I faded big time. My :roids: power just evaporated on the back half.