I am slow, and when I mean slow, I mean slow. I can do a 26 sec 50 with fins, but without I come in just under 1:20! I think a big part of it is just taking the fins off and doing a lot of kick sets to learn to feel the water better with my feet. I have a good breaststroke kick so I don't think my problem is an overly weak pair of legs, although they could be in better shape. Also, myankles are fairly flexible as I can point my toes and make my feet bend backwards past an even position with my shins. However, I do think that I need to loosen up my ankles when I kick. I feel like I get more out of my kick for those brief moments when I allow my ankles to snap back and forth with my kick. I think I actually need to relax more to kick faster as weird as that sounds.
I suppose the answer to my question is that I simply need to take of the fins and do kick set after kick set until I learn to feel the water better with my feet and become more efficient.
Syd I said before I do not believe in kickboards, kicking only or paddles. In the 50's I only did some kicking when Olympic, BE&Commonwealth Games or Pan American Games team Coaches insisted that I do some kicking or face the consequences. They would have sent me home. I have done only full stroke swimming since I started long distance swimming in 1962. I did the marathon circuit for 8 years.
I just do not believe in kicking on its own.
Hey George,
How's your training going?
What are your recent times?
What are your kicking times for a 25, 50, 100, & 200.
What pace can you hold for 5 or 10 100's flutter kick.
I heard phelps did 10 x 100 flutter kick on 1:10 and Vanderkaay could kick 400 LCM under 5:00.
I agree, kicking fast while swimming is most important, but many world class swimmers do kick sets everyday with and without boards.
The purpose of this thread is to help and encourage swimmers to become faster kickers which will help them become faster swimmers.
We know your views on kicking, you've expressed them many times in this thread.
www.usms.org/.../showpost.phpwww.usms.org/.../showthread.php
consider starting your own thread against kicking, you could call it
Kicking is a Complete Waste of Time
or
Lug those Legs
or
Legs Schmegs: bag em and drag em
If a swimmer wants to become a faster kicker
she really needs to work her kick sets.
Anything we do and measure improves.
The kick improvement training I've described here really works.
We both know what doing nothing does.
I know that kicking fast with a board, without a board and while swimming absolutely WILL enable swimmers kick faster and swim faster. The shift begins with attitude, determination, adopting a new self image, and acting as if, but little seeds of doubt can creep in, and soon swimmers can believe:
"I am what i am and there's nothing I can do about it," or "Why bother, it won't work."
The truth of the advice in "Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible" is
if you work it, it works.
Ande
Syd I said before I do not believe in kickboards, kicking only or paddles. In the 50's I only did some kicking when Olympic, BE&Commonwealth Games or Pan American Games team Coaches insisted that I do some kicking or face the consequences. They would have sent me home. I have done only full stroke swimming since I started long distance swimming in 1962. I did the marathon circuit for 8 years.
I just do not believe in kicking on its own.
Hey George,
How's your training going?
What are your recent times?
What are your kicking times for a 25, 50, 100, & 200.
What pace can you hold for 5 or 10 100's flutter kick.
I heard phelps did 10 x 100 flutter kick on 1:10 and Vanderkaay could kick 400 LCM under 5:00.
I agree, kicking fast while swimming is most important, but many world class swimmers do kick sets everyday with and without boards.
The purpose of this thread is to help and encourage swimmers to become faster kickers which will help them become faster swimmers.
We know your views on kicking, you've expressed them many times in this thread.
www.usms.org/.../showpost.phpwww.usms.org/.../showthread.php
consider starting your own thread against kicking, you could call it
Kicking is a Complete Waste of Time
or
Lug those Legs
or
Legs Schmegs: bag em and drag em
If a swimmer wants to become a faster kicker
she really needs to work her kick sets.
Anything we do and measure improves.
The kick improvement training I've described here really works.
We both know what doing nothing does.
I know that kicking fast with a board, without a board and while swimming absolutely WILL enable swimmers kick faster and swim faster. The shift begins with attitude, determination, adopting a new self image, and acting as if, but little seeds of doubt can creep in, and soon swimmers can believe:
"I am what i am and there's nothing I can do about it," or "Why bother, it won't work."
The truth of the advice in "Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible" is
if you work it, it works.
Ande
