what are the rules of butterfly style?

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In the near future would like to participate in IM 100 and 200y however, my butterfly is my slowest style I can swim about 5 sec faster (per 25y) doing dolphin like movments (kicks and whole body ondulation) under water with occasional surfacing to breath Surfacing slows me down so before i continue my underwater butterfly/dolphin i take one breastroke kick and hands stroke What are the rules defining minimum requirements for butterfly style? Do i have to move my hands forward over the water? Moving arms over the water, as in classic butterfly, seems to aggravate my shoulder muscles/joint (impingment?) so i am trying to limit or avoid this kind of movement Are there any other alternatives to swim healthy shoulder friendly butterfly? thanks
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    Originally posted by waterhugger Moving arms over the water, as in classic butterfly, seems to aggravate my shoulder muscles/joint (impingment?) so i am trying to limit or avoid this kind of movement Are there any other alternatives to swim healthy shoulder friendly butterfly? I have observed that a lot of people who have shoulder problems with swimming fly recover their arms higher than is necessary. If you stand upright and raise your arms above your head keeping them straight and directly out to the side and not behind the plane of your body, does it hurt your shoulders? You should be able to swim fly with this same arm movement and without bothering your shoulders. In most cases shoulder problems are caused by bending your elbows and/or moving your arms behind the plane of your body, although there are exceptions and your milage may vary.
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    Originally posted by waterhugger Moving arms over the water, as in classic butterfly, seems to aggravate my shoulder muscles/joint (impingment?) so i am trying to limit or avoid this kind of movement Are there any other alternatives to swim healthy shoulder friendly butterfly? I have observed that a lot of people who have shoulder problems with swimming fly recover their arms higher than is necessary. If you stand upright and raise your arms above your head keeping them straight and directly out to the side and not behind the plane of your body, does it hurt your shoulders? You should be able to swim fly with this same arm movement and without bothering your shoulders. In most cases shoulder problems are caused by bending your elbows and/or moving your arms behind the plane of your body, although there are exceptions and your milage may vary.
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