What do you think of total immersion?

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I just got Total immersion book yesterday. Have read part 1 of the book and just started doing the drills today. It seems an excallent way to swim and definatly will improve my f/s. But i'm a bit weary because it's so comercail. so my question is, Is Total immersion as good a way to swim as it makes out? or is it the best way to learn how to swim? Are there better books out there that teach you how to swim well(properly)? Hope that makes sense Swifty
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    Originally posted by totalswimm This indicates how fully your criticisms of Total Immersion are based on ignorance. ... 2) We are absolutely not opposed to Stroke Rate. ... I have problems with statement like this: 1.) "...Virtually every swimmer I see already has all the SR they'll ever need..." in the book Total Immersion, page 33; Olympians like Gary Hall Jr. have more SR than the swimmers Terry does see, yet he works on Stroke Rate because nobody -including him- has the Stroke Rate they will ever need; Gary Hall Jr. works foremost at attaining his maximum possible Stroke Rate thru fitness, then at close to that maximum Stroke Rate on the combo Stroke Rate-Stroke Length; 2.) "...In fact properly balanced they hardly kick at all..." in the book Total Immersion in page 42; 1500 meter World Record holder Grant Hackett (Aus.) kicks the entire race of the 1500 in a sprint propulsive kick he develops thru long kicking sets in workouts; he is typical -not an exception, but typical- of today's high class competition; a little before the 2000 Olympics, Ian Thorpe (Aus.) was doing 5x100 meters kick with a board leaving every 5 minutes, and coming in in 1:01; Bill Rose -coach of Olympian Larsen Jensen (U.S.)- recommends 1/3rd. of the weekly mileage in kicking sets with a board, in order to develop the quadriceps of a propulsive kick; 3.) Front Quadrant is explained as "...One hand doesn't start until the other one's nearly back..." -which is a sign of near overlap between the arms- in Total Immersion page 47, and in page 48 "...Enter, e-x-t-e-n-d, pause and pull..."; yet world class swimmers today -like the recently retired Alex. Popov (Rus.), Pieter van den Hoogenband (Netherlands), Jodie Henry (Aus.)- don't pause because they deem it as slowing them down; they swim with arms 180 degrees in opposition; one arm in the water and the other one in the air, 180 degrees apart.
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    Originally posted by totalswimm This indicates how fully your criticisms of Total Immersion are based on ignorance. ... 2) We are absolutely not opposed to Stroke Rate. ... I have problems with statement like this: 1.) "...Virtually every swimmer I see already has all the SR they'll ever need..." in the book Total Immersion, page 33; Olympians like Gary Hall Jr. have more SR than the swimmers Terry does see, yet he works on Stroke Rate because nobody -including him- has the Stroke Rate they will ever need; Gary Hall Jr. works foremost at attaining his maximum possible Stroke Rate thru fitness, then at close to that maximum Stroke Rate on the combo Stroke Rate-Stroke Length; 2.) "...In fact properly balanced they hardly kick at all..." in the book Total Immersion in page 42; 1500 meter World Record holder Grant Hackett (Aus.) kicks the entire race of the 1500 in a sprint propulsive kick he develops thru long kicking sets in workouts; he is typical -not an exception, but typical- of today's high class competition; a little before the 2000 Olympics, Ian Thorpe (Aus.) was doing 5x100 meters kick with a board leaving every 5 minutes, and coming in in 1:01; Bill Rose -coach of Olympian Larsen Jensen (U.S.)- recommends 1/3rd. of the weekly mileage in kicking sets with a board, in order to develop the quadriceps of a propulsive kick; 3.) Front Quadrant is explained as "...One hand doesn't start until the other one's nearly back..." -which is a sign of near overlap between the arms- in Total Immersion page 47, and in page 48 "...Enter, e-x-t-e-n-d, pause and pull..."; yet world class swimmers today -like the recently retired Alex. Popov (Rus.), Pieter van den Hoogenband (Netherlands), Jodie Henry (Aus.)- don't pause because they deem it as slowing them down; they swim with arms 180 degrees in opposition; one arm in the water and the other one in the air, 180 degrees apart.
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