Kinda confused

I don't understand something, or actually a few things. After getting my latest Swimmer magazine I saw all these names of swimmers that have done some great things. (congrats) What is the difference between all-stars & all-americans? Also what is the difference between SCM, SCY, LCM & what does it all mean? I feel kinda dense for not knowing these things though. :confused:
  • So Fritz, why did you Captialize "All American" and relegate "all star" to lower-case status? For shame...
  • "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels"... Samuel Johnson, Boswell apologist/biographer
  • Former Member
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    all stars had the most #1 rankings in their agegroup. All Americans had at least one #1 ranking.
  • Former Member
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    I was just being patriotic.
  • Former Member
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    SCY = Short Course Yards, 25 yard pool, most commonly found pool in the US SCM = Short Course Meters, 25 meter pool, rare is US common abroad Worlds are held either LCM (getting to that) or SCM LCM = Long course meters, 50 meter pool, what the Olympics are contested in ... you'll find a fair amount of outdoor LCM pools
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    You are confused, I looked in the mirror the other day and I saw the reflection and it was not me it was my father. Another time I even forgot my name, it must be my age.
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    Hi nkace, An All-American is anyone who is ranked #1 in USMS for an individual pool event or national championship long distance event. To be recognized as attaining All-American status, a swimmer must post the fastest time in an event/age group in at least one course of the three official courses as listed in the USMS Top 10 Tabulation or in one of the recognized Long Distance Championships. USMS has been naming All-Stars since 1987 and starting in 1995 USMS began naming long distance All-Stars as a separate category. Pool All-Stars are those who have achieved the most first place finishes in their age group during the year in Top Ten competition. Long Distance All-Stars are named on a total point basis from the results of all long distance championships. The point scoring for long distance championships is as follows: 1st place = 22 points 2nd place = 18 points 3rd place = 16 points 4th place = 14 points 5th place = 12 points 6th place = 10 points 7th place = 8 points 8th place = 6 points 9th place = 4 points 10th place = 2 points The differences between the three pool courses (SCY, SCM & LCM) are explained above. ~BV Originally posted by nkace I don't understand something, or actually a few things. After getting my latest Swimmer magazine I saw all these names of swimmers that have done some great things. (congrats) What is the difference between all-stars & all-americans? Also what is the difference between SCM, SCY, LCM & what does it all mean? I feel kinda dense for not knowing these things though. :confused:
  • Well here's another question, when racing in a meet how do relays work? I found out that if you swim in a relay you have to do an individual event. I don't understand that? Is that true or does that depend?
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    Originally posted by nkace .... when racing in a meet how do relays work? I found out that if you swim in a relay you have to do an individual event. I don't understand that? Is that true or does that depend? No, that is not true. In most meets, you could swim only the relays if you so desired. Some meets might require you to pay the individual entry fee, depending on how they set up their meet fees. It's really up to the individual meet director. You'd just have to look at various meet entry forms to get an idea of how they work. Some meets charge a flat fee that includes everything (individual and relay events). Other meets charge a base fee, plus a fee for every event swum.