There was some confusion over the previous poll "What is your favorite stroke?", as the word "favorite" can be interpreted many different ways. For example, someone may think it's his/her favorite because it's most graceful and likes to watch this stroke the most, but he/she may not necessarily swim this stroke.
So this is the new poll.
Please only select the stroke you PERSONALLY train and spend most time swimming (and thinking about).
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Originally posted by botterud
Dude,
You acknowledge that you're new the arena. You've heard from those of us that have been swimmers for some good portion of our lives. You say "why don't you let your body tell you when you are ready?" What makes you think that we don't do that??? You seem more interested in challenging our views and experience than in absorbing what we have to say.
Do what works for you dude. But but if you want to hear some voices of experience, spend a little more time absorbing the information . . . thinking about it . . . and challenge it when you have a basis for doing so . . . assertions and criticisms based on on uninformed and faulty assumptions are fairly worthless.
Dude have you ever heard that you can be doing something for years but you may have been doing it wrong all this time? Did you know that breathing into your armpit in freestyle used to be acceptable but now is considered wrong? Did you also know that wide wedge kick used to be considered THE kick for breastroke but is now replaced by whip kick?
You are wrong. I do absorb things, but I just don't take everything I was told as gospel. You know why? When I started learning swimming, people at the pool said to me: "I have been a swimmer my whole life. This is what I do and what you need to do." I was then taught (by various people) to breathe on every stroke, do not kick in freestyle as kicks will tire you out, breathe into my armpit, draw your legs under your body as much as possible for breaststroke kick, etc, etc, etc. It wasn't until much later that I discovered that none of these are correct. I had to try very hard to get rid of these bad habits.
From the very beginning of this discussion, all I was saying is that if you think 1200m - 2000m warmups are essential for sprinters, fine, but give me some logical and factual reasons why that's the case. Don't just tell me that's the way you have been doing it for years so it must be correct. Honestly, neither you nor Kirk is a sprinter, so you shouldn't have assumed that sprint training is the same as distance training and tried to give advice on something you knew little about.
As someone else who is on a sprinter team pointed out, their warmup primarily consists sets that are similar distance to their race.
Alos, go to page 148 and page 149 of Colwin's Breakthrough Swimming, you will see that he thinks sprinters should do sets of 25 and 50 for warmup, and distance swimmers should swim a few hundred yards to establish race pace.
And yes I am new the arena, but fortunately, by keeping an open yet skeptical mind, I am only absorbing correct information. Now I am swimming faster than those who have been swimming all their life.
Originally posted by botterud
Dude,
You acknowledge that you're new the arena. You've heard from those of us that have been swimmers for some good portion of our lives. You say "why don't you let your body tell you when you are ready?" What makes you think that we don't do that??? You seem more interested in challenging our views and experience than in absorbing what we have to say.
Do what works for you dude. But but if you want to hear some voices of experience, spend a little more time absorbing the information . . . thinking about it . . . and challenge it when you have a basis for doing so . . . assertions and criticisms based on on uninformed and faulty assumptions are fairly worthless.
Dude have you ever heard that you can be doing something for years but you may have been doing it wrong all this time? Did you know that breathing into your armpit in freestyle used to be acceptable but now is considered wrong? Did you also know that wide wedge kick used to be considered THE kick for breastroke but is now replaced by whip kick?
You are wrong. I do absorb things, but I just don't take everything I was told as gospel. You know why? When I started learning swimming, people at the pool said to me: "I have been a swimmer my whole life. This is what I do and what you need to do." I was then taught (by various people) to breathe on every stroke, do not kick in freestyle as kicks will tire you out, breathe into my armpit, draw your legs under your body as much as possible for breaststroke kick, etc, etc, etc. It wasn't until much later that I discovered that none of these are correct. I had to try very hard to get rid of these bad habits.
From the very beginning of this discussion, all I was saying is that if you think 1200m - 2000m warmups are essential for sprinters, fine, but give me some logical and factual reasons why that's the case. Don't just tell me that's the way you have been doing it for years so it must be correct. Honestly, neither you nor Kirk is a sprinter, so you shouldn't have assumed that sprint training is the same as distance training and tried to give advice on something you knew little about.
As someone else who is on a sprinter team pointed out, their warmup primarily consists sets that are similar distance to their race.
Alos, go to page 148 and page 149 of Colwin's Breakthrough Swimming, you will see that he thinks sprinters should do sets of 25 and 50 for warmup, and distance swimmers should swim a few hundred yards to establish race pace.
And yes I am new the arena, but fortunately, by keeping an open yet skeptical mind, I am only absorbing correct information. Now I am swimming faster than those who have been swimming all their life.
