Rumor has it that some teams were recruiting outside there LMSC for swimmers at nationals. What do you think of this.
Former Member
originally posted by Peter Cruise
Hey Jim- persons who have newly revealed long-dreaded nicknames shouldn't critique others
O.k. I'm just now getting that part of your quote.....forgive me but my nuerotransmitters don't fire at the same rate that they use too....for many reasons that I won't go into here.
Yeah....but I said that as grown ups y'all wouldn't use that information against me now....It took a lot of guts for me to share that extremely embarraressing little nugget from the past with y'all!.......I almost interpreted your quote as a kind of hidden threat....and I'm sure that wasn't your intention now right?
newmastersswimmer
Originally posted by knelson
OK, so now that heads seem to be a little more level, I agree with a lot of Connie's more recent posts. I'm in no way opposed to the growth of masters swimming, but this growth needs to be managed effectively.
Okay. maybe I'm little naive, but isn't it kind of implied that we want to do things in a reasonable and effective manner?
Who in their right mind would want to push for something dysfunctional???
Just increasing the membership is clearly not the answer. That was my original point and sorry if I helped this thread go off on a few ill-advised tangents! I have no problems with my membership fees going to the advocacy of masters swimming, just not growth for growth's sake alone.
Well, you know things are never that simplistic.
Was it you that asked me to tell you why we'd want to grow... My first thought was, heh, that;s a loaded question, I could write a whole book about reasons and possibilities that would open... My thoughts aren't sorted enough yet to pare them down to post or two or three.
P.S.: Jim, I think what Peter was trying to say is that everyone's just trying to make masters swimming mo' better :)
moe is betta then no moe ;)
Where's Mr. Moose when we need him!
Originally posted by knelson
This would be analogous to building a huge new housing development with a single two-lane road as the only way in or out of the development.
Are you talking about USMS or Charlotte, NC infrastructure?
Originally posted by knelson
No one wants to do things dysfunctional. The reality, though, is sometimes things end up that way. For example publishing a lot of print ads and creating a USMS TV commercial will definitely get the word out, but they won't solve several of the issues we've been discussing for the last few pages of this thread. I think you said you were involved in real estate development in some capacity (sorry if I'm wrong). This would be analogous to building a huge new housing development with a single two-lane road as the only way in or out of the development.
Yeah, I hear ya!
One of the things I do is Civil Engineering and Land Surveying.
Know exactly what you're talking about. Like hooking up a 4" sewer to a Vegas Hilton ;)
I like to get things done, but not without proper planing.
Frank, thanks for th update althoug I'm a bit dissapointed (but not surprised) that Jim would not feel it was worthwhile to at least broach this with FINA.
I still think that it would benefit our sport to see International meets allow teams to swim for their countries (if the athletes want this) vs. club teams..........and yes I know it brings up a whole bunch of challenges!
Frank,
While it's nice to know past president Jim Miller's opinion on this issue with FINA, it should be presented to FINA none the less.
It's time to "start hitting the brick wall" and making this proposition to FINA. It may get struck down at first. It may get struck down a dozen times. However, that doesn't mean you don't propose the issue. The December 3rd, 2005 meeting should be the forum for this proposal of national teams at international masters events.
John Smith
