Latest L. Armstrong controversy

The amazing thing about the use of drugs in sport is the users are always ahead of the pack...perhaps Testosterone does have other effects............. Erythropoiesis is the production of new red blood cells. This is accomplished primarily in the bone marrow, the red blood cell factory, so to speak. Erythropoiesis is stimulated primarily by erythropoietin (hence, the clever naming of that hormone!). Erythropoietin is produced in the kidneys. Androgens, including testosterone, are another type of hormone. One of the effects of androgens is to increase the production of erythropoietin. Another is to increase the responsiveness of immature bone marrow cells to the effects of erythropoietin. Simplistically, testosterone increases the output and effectiveness of erythropoietin, which in turn stimulates the production and regulation or red blood cells. Testosterone, and other androgens, has many other effects as well, which is why it is not used primarily for erythropoiesis. Does anyone know if the affect above...unlike the anabolic effect...is more immediate???

Reading about the T/E test: www.asada.gov.au/.../testosterone.htm it seems to me that a positive result for Floyd Landis should not have been declared at this stage, as the required follow-up investigation has surely not yet taken place.

Originally posted by knelson At this point I really don't know what to think. I know a couple things: one, Landis is still innocent until we learn more. The other thing I know is that dopers always have an excuse. I'm with you on this. I read today where he thinks the drinking of some Jack Daniels the night before might have influenced the outcome. First, how could this even be possible and, second, how could he ride the ride of his life on a whisky hangover?

it seems to me that a positive result for Floyd Landis should not have been declared at this stage, as the required follow-up investigation has surely not yet taken place. I agree.....They shouldn't say anything until they have covered his explanation... "In the case of a T/E result of greater than 4:1 and no other reliable analytical method applied it is mandatory that the relevant medical authority conducts an investigation before the sample is declared positive. " Maybe he took some of Michelle Smith's Wiskey ???

Guilty until proven inocent. Thats the Tour de France and the French press.

Originally posted by Allen Stark Kirk,yes it is. It is the original anabolic steroid. Since it is naturally occuring it can be harder to check as you can only go by quatitative analyses. Perhaps only one test was high because the others were borderline and this day he was a little more dehydrated and his blood and urine more concentrated.Or maybe it's lab error and he'll be exonerated. Excellent point. Dehydration can alter the results of the test. bikers don't usually drink enough. Many have very weird issues with their weight & self-body image. Some guys I've known I woud consider anarexic(sp). One thing about testosterone is that hard work will increase the amount produced by the body. I think it is one of the built-in survval mechanisms we humans have. I still, though, would wonder why his levels were high. Even if he were dehydrated the level woudl be ablut 3:1.

Originally posted by aquageek I'm with you on this. I read today where he thinks the drinking of some Jack Daniels the night before might have influenced the outcome. First, how could this even be possible and, second, how could he ride the ride of his life on a whisky hangover? He also suggested that the thyroid hormone he takes or the shot of cortisone (a glucocorticoid, not an anabolic steroid) he received in his hip could have affected the results. No way. Starting to sound like the usual excuses we hear when someone is caught.

Originally posted by gull80 I'm sure there's a simple, logical explanation for his test result. Like, say, injecting himself with a banned substance. Now that's funny!

He just needs a logical explanation ?Let's help. "After a bad 16th stage I pulled myself together and grew some balls overnight" or "I borrowed Jan's balls cause he didn't need them" or "I had a large plate of sweetbreads the night before"

Justin Gatlin, the 2004 Olympic gold medalist who earlier this year tied the world record in the 100-meter dash, failed a doping test in April, testing positive for testosterone, he disclosed Saturday. Gatlin, 24, an athlete who had reveled in portraying himself as a "genuinely clean champion," tested positive April 22 at the Kansas Relays, an early spring milestone on the track and field calendar.The failed Kansas test came just weeks before Gatlin tied the world record in the 100 meters, 9.77 seconds, a race run May 12 in Doha, Qatar. Gatlin was not notified until June 15 he had tested positive, Myler said Saturday-which explains why he was able to run in Qatar and through the U.S. nationals in Indianapolis, where he won the 100 meters in 9.93 seconds.