Sorry, I know this is a tired topic. What I'm wondering is whether anyone has tips for combining flips turns with a good breathing rhythm. I can do flip turns, but I always feel like it takes me the better part of the lap to recover my oxygen level (25 yd pool)... then, of course, it's time for another turn. If I do open turns I'm comfortable swimming longer sets and can keep my rest intervals shorter. With flip turns, I'm always out of breath and just don't enjoy it very much. What's the secret?