I am interested if anyone could shed some light on citizenship/resident requirements in relation to National/USMS relay records. Is it possible for a record setting relay with one or more members of that relay, not being a US citizen(s) or even a resident(s), to be recognized as such?
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Frank- there was one older male breastroker from Vancouver Island whose name I conveniently (& honestly) forget, who was actively manipulating his dual registration status & breaking records in both countries, but I don't know how much he got away with because Walt Reid (fina top ten keeper from PNA) was aware of him. Ill health has removed him from the equation.
Farney- if you work your google, you'll find the last two had no connection to Canada. As I say, the inspection systems in both countries use suspect methodology & inadequate scrutiny for my comfort (esp. considering how many hamburgers under the bridge for me).
I know that there have been a number of foreign athletes that have been registered USMS members and have broken USMS records. While I was the records chair in Arizona, we had a number that I can think of set records:
Atilla Czene (Hungary)
Memo diaz de Leon (Mexico)
Clare Hedenskog (somewhere in Europe)
Simon Percy (New Zealand)
Riley Mants (Canada)
Beata Kaszuba (Poland)
Camilla Johansson (Sweden)
Francisco Sanchez (Venezuela)
Not all of these athletes still hold the records, but I did file record applications for each of them. With the greater number of foreign swimmers attending college in the US and staying afterwards, I suspect this trend will continue.
However, I wonder if there are enough to warrent having separate Open Records. If we did, what would we gain?
Wait till Evil-Godsmith gets a hold of this.....given his "no foreigners getting US scholorships thread"!
It's bad enough that he has to live with a former Cal swimmer holding the WR in the 40-44 50m free!
I hate to admit it, but I agree with Evil-Good on this! It seems VERY strange that USMS would set up records in this way, what say you Mr. Gill?!
By the way Evil-Good, as I explained to you once before Gauchos herd Longhorns all day the cook a few for dinner at camp each night......not to mention we're VERY proud of our THREE national (Divison I) championships; Surfing, Ulitmate Frisbee & Water Polo!
My guess is that Austin probably has nicer beaches?! :)
Originally posted by TheGoodSmith
National records........ are a different matter. A US Masters national record should be eligible for US citizens only. Make another category like "US Open" if you want foreigners to be recognized in the US for national best times.
Is there a nationality requirement for USMS membership?
