Citizenship/Residence & Records

horn Head: I guess it can be done because the FINA federations don't share the same registration data base. The USMS registration card does not have language forbidding registration if you are registered with another FINA federation. Where it will be caught will be if the individual makes the FINA Top Ten under 2 member FINA federations. Many years ago I knew swimmers you lived near the boarders of both the USA and Canada. For about 2 years they swam for both federations and the first year they made the FINA Top Ten is the year they had to choose which federation they would represent and the one they did not excluded all of there times from FINA Top Ten. I don't know what will happen in the case your talking about because relays sometimes are harder to spot than individual events. Paul, do you know of any swimmers setting USMS records that are not citizens. I know Martin Zubero and Anthony Nesty have set records in USMS and I know they live here now but maybe they are citizens. If not, those are the only two that I can think of. When you went to Australia, did they have Open records there that you set? I can't imagine the work to keep up USMS Open Records. The only two meets I can think of that had large foreign swimmers were the two international meets in Indianapolis in 1989 and 1992. USMS has had foreign teams that compete in our Nationals. And next year at Stanford will have a lot of foreign swimmers setting WR on US soil. If you could convince some people at the USAS convention for a rules change its still not to late this year to do it. You would also have to get a box on the registration card with citizen and non citzen marked off. That I believe would also require a change in registration requirements for USMS swimmers to be citizens of the USA. It sounds like a simple fix but I know you have been to the USAS convention and I just know from experience that this would not be the case.

horn Head: I guess it can be done because the FINA federations don't share the same registration data base. The USMS registration card does not have language forbidding registration if you are registered with another FINA federation. Where it will be caught will be if the individual makes the FINA Top Ten under 2 member FINA federations. Many years ago I knew swimmers you lived near the boarders of both the USA and Canada. For about 2 years they swam for both federations and the first year they made the FINA Top Ten is the year they had to choose which federation they would represent and the one they did not excluded all of there times from FINA Top Ten. I don't know what will happen in the case your talking about because relays sometimes are harder to spot than individual events. Paul, do you know of any swimmers setting USMS records that are not citizens. I know Martin Zubero and Anthony Nesty have set records in USMS and I know they live here now but maybe they are citizens. If not, those are the only two that I can think of. When you went to Australia, did they have Open records there that you set? I can't imagine the work to keep up USMS Open Records. The only two meets I can think of that had large foreign swimmers were the two international meets in Indianapolis in 1989 and 1992. USMS has had foreign teams that compete in our Nationals. And next year at Stanford will have a lot of foreign swimmers setting WR on US soil. If you could convince some people at the USAS convention for a rules change its still not to late this year to do it. You would also have to get a box on the registration card with citizen and non citzen marked off. That I believe would also require a change in registration requirements for USMS swimmers to be citizens of the USA. It sounds like a simple fix but I know you have been to the USAS convention and I just know from experience that this would not be the case.