Old national caliber swimmers that never come back
Former Member
Interesting and unfortunate that the vast majority of ex swimmers that made finals at NCAAs or Nationals when they were younger (or even just cuts) do not now participate in Masters Swimming. Only a small handful of these people come to Masters Nationals each year within each age group.
What a good opportunity USMS presents to see old faces and have a good time. I think USMS would benefit tremendously from their knowledge of the sport.
John Smith
Geek:
I meant 22 programs from 11 schools. Remeber Penn State joined but they did not rename the conference to the Big 11. And its been dry for a while with NCAA Championships. Maybe Bob Bowman can change that in the future.
About your second point, I will leave that up to Craigh. I don't think he will agree with your statement because I believe when he was thinking like this he was referring to young boys and wearing speedo's.
Mr Goodsmith, didn't Texas recruit some foreign divers while you attended the school. I know its not swimming, but they do contribute to the points for the Championship. Also I have been thinking about what your saying about ex National Caliber swimmers from the past and I believe we have really had a lot come back and compete at one time or another. Maybe not consistantly but they make a presence. What % do you believe would be a representation for that.
I have a teamate from Michigan Masters that swam at the 1989 Pan Pacific Championships and in his heat there was 3 people that had won 9 Olympic Gold Medals. Rowdy Gaines, Jim Montgomery, and Brain Goodell were all in the same heat in the 200 Free. Also another teammate of mine went to the Short Course Nationals at USC in 1990 and couldn't believe all of the National caliber swimmers at the meet. In his heats in backstroke he had Mook Rodenbaugh, Clay Britt, Sean Murphy, and Fran Mortensen just to name a few. Mr Goodsmith, you might have been at this meet because I believe all of these guys are in your age group. My teammate commented that it reminded him of heats of the Olympic Trials.
There are 156 ex Olympians that have swam masters that USMS knows about. Gail Roper keeps track of this on this website and there is probably a lot more. It would be interesting if someone would trace back all of the national swimmers that have swam up until this point. I think there is a lot more that you could imagine.
Geek:
I meant 22 programs from 11 schools. Remeber Penn State joined but they did not rename the conference to the Big 11. And its been dry for a while with NCAA Championships. Maybe Bob Bowman can change that in the future.
About your second point, I will leave that up to Craigh. I don't think he will agree with your statement because I believe when he was thinking like this he was referring to young boys and wearing speedo's.
Mr Goodsmith, didn't Texas recruit some foreign divers while you attended the school. I know its not swimming, but they do contribute to the points for the Championship. Also I have been thinking about what your saying about ex National Caliber swimmers from the past and I believe we have really had a lot come back and compete at one time or another. Maybe not consistantly but they make a presence. What % do you believe would be a representation for that.
I have a teamate from Michigan Masters that swam at the 1989 Pan Pacific Championships and in his heat there was 3 people that had won 9 Olympic Gold Medals. Rowdy Gaines, Jim Montgomery, and Brain Goodell were all in the same heat in the 200 Free. Also another teammate of mine went to the Short Course Nationals at USC in 1990 and couldn't believe all of the National caliber swimmers at the meet. In his heats in backstroke he had Mook Rodenbaugh, Clay Britt, Sean Murphy, and Fran Mortensen just to name a few. Mr Goodsmith, you might have been at this meet because I believe all of these guys are in your age group. My teammate commented that it reminded him of heats of the Olympic Trials.
There are 156 ex Olympians that have swam masters that USMS knows about. Gail Roper keeps track of this on this website and there is probably a lot more. It would be interesting if someone would trace back all of the national swimmers that have swam up until this point. I think there is a lot more that you could imagine.