Working on learning the fly for a couple months now. I swim in a short course meters pool. My stroke count for 25m is 8. Last time I swam, I realized I was probably pulling too hard on the pulldown. I backed the pull off a notch, which made my stroke feel a whole lot smoother and easier, but I still hit the wall in 8 strokes. I'm wondering if I shouldn't try and increase the turnover rate and take another stroke or two rather than lunging for all I'm worth on every stroke? Or is 8 about right?
Not a whole lot of flyers in my pool on my lunch swims for me to watch or compare myself to, and I'm self coached, so while "Your results may vary," I'm interested in what others are doing. I'm a 6'2" 44 year old guy (who's probably too old to be trying to learn new tricks, but is).
Thanks.
I’ve got about 4 years and an inch (in height) on you and I typically take around 8 to 9 strokes per 25. However, with a long breakout and a long glide at the top of my stroke I can easily get this down to 4 per length. So the real factor with fly is not strokes per length but fluidity. And “lunging for all I'm worth on every stroke” doesn’t seem like a nice rolling fly stroke.
There have been a few threads on this forum discussing butterfly and there are lots of good books and videos available. But, my advice to you would be to find a good coach or hook up with a club or take some private lessons. While it’s never easy to self-coach you can always learn new tricks.
I’ve got about 4 years and an inch (in height) on you and I typically take around 8 to 9 strokes per 25. However, with a long breakout and a long glide at the top of my stroke I can easily get this down to 4 per length. So the real factor with fly is not strokes per length but fluidity. And “lunging for all I'm worth on every stroke” doesn’t seem like a nice rolling fly stroke.
There have been a few threads on this forum discussing butterfly and there are lots of good books and videos available. But, my advice to you would be to find a good coach or hook up with a club or take some private lessons. While it’s never easy to self-coach you can always learn new tricks.