There has been a lot of discussion since Athens about foreign swimmers training in the United States. Most of them attend U.S. Universities, receive athletic scholarships, and compete at NCAA's. Some notable examples include Duje Draganja (Cal), Fred Bousquet and Kirsty Coventry (Auburn), Markus Rogan (Stanford), and the South African sprinters (Arizona). Some train in the U.S., but don't compete for a university (Inge de Bruijn). All of these athletes benefit from U.S. coaching, from training with U.S. swimmers, and in some cases, from financial support provided by U.S. entities (athletic scholarships). They all turn around and then win medals for other countries.
A couple questions: 1) What do you think about this arrangement generally? 2) Is it of benefit or detriment to U.S. swimming to have these foreign athletes training and competing here? 3) Should we be giving athletic scholarships, which are a scarce resource in swimming, to foreign athletes who will represent their own countries internationally instead of U.S.-born swimmers who will represent us internationally?
I'm sure there are other issues, but these come directly to mind.
Parents
Former Member
My best friend lives in Denver. He had already faxed me the story. I truly believe that schools can only be responsbile to them selves. If they wast to give scholarships to non-USA citizens, fine by me. I just talked to a friend. He son graduated from high school this spring. he applied to many US colleges. The best deal he got was from McGill in Canada and Truman State in Missouri. He is going to Truman on an academic scholarship.
Maybe we should revert to old times when no one got scholarships of any kind and only those who are extremely wealthy or very hard workers can go to college. I only got $1,000 for my freshman year at DePauw and $1,000 for my senoir year at Knox. I worked 60 hour weeks at a state mental health facility to pay my tuition. I also tried to swim. It was truly a learning experience. For those of you who don't know both Knox & DePauw are in the top 100 colleges/universities in the nation according to US News. I graduated with a high B average. So many people waste so much tiem in college. I was even able to drink & participate in Flunk Day! It really bothers me when people *** about scholarships at state schools. Is the complaining really disguised racism or other negative nationalistic thoughts?
Reply
Former Member
My best friend lives in Denver. He had already faxed me the story. I truly believe that schools can only be responsbile to them selves. If they wast to give scholarships to non-USA citizens, fine by me. I just talked to a friend. He son graduated from high school this spring. he applied to many US colleges. The best deal he got was from McGill in Canada and Truman State in Missouri. He is going to Truman on an academic scholarship.
Maybe we should revert to old times when no one got scholarships of any kind and only those who are extremely wealthy or very hard workers can go to college. I only got $1,000 for my freshman year at DePauw and $1,000 for my senoir year at Knox. I worked 60 hour weeks at a state mental health facility to pay my tuition. I also tried to swim. It was truly a learning experience. For those of you who don't know both Knox & DePauw are in the top 100 colleges/universities in the nation according to US News. I graduated with a high B average. So many people waste so much tiem in college. I was even able to drink & participate in Flunk Day! It really bothers me when people *** about scholarships at state schools. Is the complaining really disguised racism or other negative nationalistic thoughts?
