There has been a lot of discussion since Athens about foreign swimmers training in the United States. Most of them attend U.S. Universities, receive athletic scholarships, and compete at NCAA's. Some notable examples include Duje Draganja (Cal), Fred Bousquet and Kirsty Coventry (Auburn), Markus Rogan (Stanford), and the South African sprinters (Arizona). Some train in the U.S., but don't compete for a university (Inge de Bruijn). All of these athletes benefit from U.S. coaching, from training with U.S. swimmers, and in some cases, from financial support provided by U.S. entities (athletic scholarships). They all turn around and then win medals for other countries.
A couple questions: 1) What do you think about this arrangement generally? 2) Is it of benefit or detriment to U.S. swimming to have these foreign athletes training and competing here? 3) Should we be giving athletic scholarships, which are a scarce resource in swimming, to foreign athletes who will represent their own countries internationally instead of U.S.-born swimmers who will represent us internationally?
I'm sure there are other issues, but these come directly to mind.
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I keep reading entries to this thread. I can't believe any one thinks that Universities shouldn't offer scholarships to anyone they wasnt too offer them to!!!!!! If you believe so strongly that foreign students shouldn't get scholarships then do somehting about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The USA was made great by foreigners. Much investment in real estate in California and the pacific Northwest is being by Chinese. Any company listed on the New York Stock exchange -regarless of where there corp. headquarters are located- must abide by the Sarbannes/Oaxley law, must pay taxes on gains they made through issuing that stock and other US income, and must pay other necessary taxes. Also their is a growing number of US citizens employeed by foreigh firms. some of these peole don't even know who reallyowns the company for which they work.
Our borders are to large to close. There are so many places that cnadians enter into the uSA that aren't protected, it is idiotic to suggest that our borders can be closed! closing our borders woudl destroy our ecomony. Do you know that China only exports roughly 10% of its manufactured goods. However, here inthe USA almost 40% of all manufactured goods come from China!
I keep reading entries to this thread. I can't believe any one thinks that Universities shouldn't offer scholarships to anyone they wasnt too offer them to!!!!!! If you believe so strongly that foreign students shouldn't get scholarships then do somehting about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The USA was made great by foreigners. Much investment in real estate in California and the pacific Northwest is being by Chinese. Any company listed on the New York Stock exchange -regarless of where there corp. headquarters are located- must abide by the Sarbannes/Oaxley law, must pay taxes on gains they made through issuing that stock and other US income, and must pay other necessary taxes. Also their is a growing number of US citizens employeed by foreigh firms. some of these peole don't even know who reallyowns the company for which they work.
Our borders are to large to close. There are so many places that cnadians enter into the uSA that aren't protected, it is idiotic to suggest that our borders can be closed! closing our borders woudl destroy our ecomony. Do you know that China only exports roughly 10% of its manufactured goods. However, here inthe USA almost 40% of all manufactured goods come from China!
