There has been a lot of discussion since Athens about foreign swimmers training in the United States. Most of them attend U.S. Universities, receive athletic scholarships, and compete at NCAA's. Some notable examples include Duje Draganja (Cal), Fred Bousquet and Kirsty Coventry (Auburn), Markus Rogan (Stanford), and the South African sprinters (Arizona). Some train in the U.S., but don't compete for a university (Inge de Bruijn). All of these athletes benefit from U.S. coaching, from training with U.S. swimmers, and in some cases, from financial support provided by U.S. entities (athletic scholarships). They all turn around and then win medals for other countries.
A couple questions: 1) What do you think about this arrangement generally? 2) Is it of benefit or detriment to U.S. swimming to have these foreign athletes training and competing here? 3) Should we be giving athletic scholarships, which are a scarce resource in swimming, to foreign athletes who will represent their own countries internationally instead of U.S.-born swimmers who will represent us internationally?
I'm sure there are other issues, but these come directly to mind.
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Originally posted by Paul Smith
By the way, for all you idiots talking about politics on this thread and whining about "anti-immigration/anit-foreigner"......tell me of any other country in the world that you can cross into illegally and; work? get health care? education?
Fair is fair.........
Great way to communicate, Paul!!!let's call everyone idiots now , but who is the one who is really in the dark(can't use the same word, sorry, my upbringing is not letting me)?Well, let me tell you this:almost every more or less economically stable country has a problem with illegal immigration who FIND THE WAYS to work AND to study!!!Heck, even Russia(mostly Moscow, though) has a problem with illegals(an estimated 3mln. in just Moscow).So I suggest you do some research before you come with that kind of "info" next time...
Oh, yeah, and about health care - well, I think America needs to be able to figure out how to provide a good health care program to its citizens first...How many people are on the edge of bankrupcy because of "the perfect American healthcare"?Just so that you know in a lot of countries it is government funded and you will not be charged for being treated...
Originally posted by Paul Smith
By the way, for all you idiots talking about politics on this thread and whining about "anti-immigration/anit-foreigner"......tell me of any other country in the world that you can cross into illegally and; work? get health care? education?
Fair is fair.........
Great way to communicate, Paul!!!let's call everyone idiots now , but who is the one who is really in the dark(can't use the same word, sorry, my upbringing is not letting me)?Well, let me tell you this:almost every more or less economically stable country has a problem with illegal immigration who FIND THE WAYS to work AND to study!!!Heck, even Russia(mostly Moscow, though) has a problem with illegals(an estimated 3mln. in just Moscow).So I suggest you do some research before you come with that kind of "info" next time...
Oh, yeah, and about health care - well, I think America needs to be able to figure out how to provide a good health care program to its citizens first...How many people are on the edge of bankrupcy because of "the perfect American healthcare"?Just so that you know in a lot of countries it is government funded and you will not be charged for being treated...
