A Faster Pool than Fort Lauderdale

What's the U. Tennessee's NCAA swimming record versus UT Austin's? posted by Ande Razzzzz It always comes back to swimming for you Texicans doesn't it?.....Well that's one issue I can't argue with I suppose....but how bout those SMU Mustangs back in the Lundquist days eh??.....Thos spoiled little rich kids had UT's number didn't they?? Newmastersswimmer

No sometimes Texas is HOTTER THAN THE HINGES ON THE GATES OF HELL and so are many of it's women. Texas is quite a diverse state. You can see a little bit of everything in the greatest state god ever made. Including some really nice swimming pools. ande Originally posted by Phil Arcuni You know, I am not a total ignoramous when it comes to Texas. I once visited UT. It was god awful hot, flatter than a skillet, and surrounded by rusted oil rigs. The people were hard to understand, and ate steak on butcher paper with nothing but sharp knives. Or maybe that was Lubbock . . . ? (It is hard to keep these places straight) I did not see a pool.

Are you 100% sure about all of that?....I was almost certain that SMU won that first Dallas Morning News Invitational (and I was at the meet??).....And I guess I have forgotten a lot from those days (it's was a bit foggy back then for some reason??).....but I thought SMU actually won the National Championships one of those Lundquist years......Didn't they win like 2 or 3 out of the 4 relays at NCAA's one year with Lundquist on each of them?.......I have been known to get my facts confused though when going back that far....Don't know what killed off all those memory cells? Newmastersswimmer p.s.....Sorry I misread your posting...I thought you included all head to head matchups....but you said Conference Championships and NCAA's only........but not all the big meets though right?...and r you 100% sure about NCAA's?

The next time I come across some Dilitheum Crystals, I will test your hypothesis.

Originally posted by newmastersswimmer but I thought SMU actually won the National Championships one of those Lundquist years......Didn't they win like 2 or 3 out of the 4 relays at NCAA's one year with Lundquist on each of them? The closest they came was a second place finish in 1983 behind Florida. It was close, though, 238-227. It looks like SMU only won the 200 medley relay, though. Also Lunk didn't win the 200 *** that year. www.ncaa.org/.../2003WinterChampsRecords.pdf

Texas being to build with swimmers like Clay Britt, Kris Kirchner, William Paulas, Scott Spann, and others posted by Frank Thompson Also lets not forget Chris Rives as well.....I had the pleasure of having my butt served back to me on a silver platt back in highschool by Chris in the finals of the 100 fly and 200 IM at the Texas State Championships in 1981 (or maybe it was 1982??)!! Newmastersswimmer p.s. Chris swam for Memorial high school (in Houston) along with Masters swimming phenom Dean Putterman.....They won state in the year I am reffering to above with 4 swimmers in attendance (and one diver who only scored one point for them)....the other two swimmers were tjord Brink and Larry Craft......Chris was the most phenominal of the group though IMHO ...Although they were all fast as hell!

I will say this about Tennessee and their late 1970s program under "the man" ..... Ray Bussard. They totally dominated and changed sprint freestyle in their day. They totally stacked the 50 free finals of the NCAAs like no other team since.... including Auburn. It was an impressive feat to say the least. His teams always had a lot of spirit..... some crazy initiation stories.... but a legendary past none the less. As for big egos........... you must have a decent sized ego to properly swim the 50 free..... :-) John Smith

Originally posted by TheGoodSmith Dude, It's like matter and antimatter. You don't want to mix the two together........... ever. Gahh, I missed my chance to make an on-topic posting! (Or is the topic Texas rivalries? Florida pools? :p ) You are welcome to check out the Fermilab web site and point out an appropriate place for us to add, "Wrongly colliding protons and anit-protons for over 30 years." :) On the other hand, if you meant that we should never mix matter, anti-matter, fire ants, and politicians (the aborted SSC project in Texas in the early '90s), then you are absolutely right.

Originally posted by newmastersswimmer Moose Man, As far as the Big Bend goes.....I did say "real" mountains right?......and as far as West Texas goes.....Hmm??....Never been there so I can't really refute or support that one (So I'll edit my last posting to exclude West Texas.....that still leaves enough of Texas to engulf at least 3 or 4 of the more moderately sized other states) newmastersswimmer Okay, like Heather (or is it Keather?) I have no reason to get involved as I have nothing against either Texas or Tennessee. But face up to facts -- neither of your states have mountains, hills perhaps, but MOUNTAINS? No, sorry. Although I don't doubt that your hills are very lovely when they are covered in spring flowers.

Jim: I think the guy you are thinking about is Scott Spann who I believe swam for Texas for 2 years after transfering from Auburn. I believe he was 2nd in the 200 IM behind Bruce Furnis but I believe he was swimming for Auburn then. SMU pretty much dominated Texas up until 1980. I believe that year was the changing of the guard. Texas being to build with swimmers like Clay Britt, Kris Kirchner, William Paulas, Scott Spann, and others and I don't think SMU beat them in a dual meet or conference meet once these swimmers came on board and they started to recruit around this base. I also believe that the Texas Swim Center was built in the early 80's and this helped with their recruiting efforts along with having a proven coach like Eddie Reese. I do remember SMU being a very good swim program in the late 60's and early 70's. They came to Univ. of Michigan in 1969/1970 period and had the longest dual meet win streak at like 80 in the country and Michigan beat them by 1 point in that dual meet. I remember it well because Larry Driver was the Michigan HS State Champion in the 100 *** in 1969 and 4th in the nation behind B. Job, T. Bruce, and S. Issak and he swam for SMU. They had some great swimmers on that team like Fred Schlicher, Charley Minder, Ronnie Mills, and the late great Jerry Heindrich. I beleive that was there best team until the one that got 2nd in 1983 at the NCAA Championship.