Learning to fly

Hi, new to the board, back in the pool about 4 months. Worked up to doing Mo Chambers workouts, but always substituting for fly in the IM's because I just never learned it. I've always been a lousy kicker, but I bought a pair of Zoomers and quit using the board, which has helped a bunch. I do dolphins front and side and flutter on my back. I just started to dolphin kick off the flip (without the fins), which has really helped reduce stroke count (10 catchup; 13 -- 14 normally; 15 + is a failed lap). I'm 6'2" and dropped from 200+ when I started down to 190 - 195, which feels great. Today I tried doing the fly legs in the IM's wearing the Zoomers, and I think there's some hope. Can a 44 year old lousy kicker learn to fly? Is it OK to learn with fins? Are there bad habits to watch out for when learning with or without the fins? Or should I forget about fly and just concentrate on the other three strokes? I'm having a lot of fun swimming again, love the workouts and chat here, and am not afraid of looking like a complete dweeb.
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    "Is there another pool available? I have the same symptoms as you at one of the pools in my area. I switched to another pool (still run by the same recreation department) and have had no problems." Well all this is bearing fruit after all. I didn't expect that anybody else would have had similar symptoms. I've been using only one outdoor community association pool. I really don't know how close the closest public or lap pool is; I need to look into that. "I wonder whether there's something in the walls or the ceiling at the pool that we're allergic to - mould, fungus, etc.?" The pool was resurfaced at the beginning of the year. I don't remember what problems I had last year but I've had a problem the whole time this year. I've swam a whole lot more this year, more than ever before although I was in the pool frequently as a small kid. It seems that the longer I'm in the pool on a given day the more symptoms I have (in addition to the overall worsening). In the past, if I had nasal problems after swimming, I might not have thought so much about it since I have plenty of ongoing problems anyway. I've been tested to be allergic to mold as well as most of the rest of the things they probably tested for. "I admit, doesn't do anything for me either. I use Allegra, but it's still prescription only. Another thing you might want to try is Nasalcrom" I've given Allegra and Nasalcrom a good try. Neither works. I've been asked your original question, "Have your tried Claritin?", many times. I haven't tried the products that came out in the last several years so I should have a few new ones to try. "It's also ragweed season in California right now, and my sinuses have gone crazy." I'm sure that one gets me too. Possibly it is all the stuff that blows into the pool. Say when I cycle on a bad day, it is easier to recognize the problem. For one, the symptoms occur immediately and I may feel bad and my eyes will end up being bloodshot. Those noticeably bad days are not terribly frequent and mostly in the spring. After swimming, I never feel bad, quite the opposite. It is limited to the annoying nasal problems but a few times I have had trouble getting air because of the congestion. I particularly don't like this which almost never otherwise happens. Thanks much! I got some ideas to work on - probably for next year.
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  • Former Member
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    "Is there another pool available? I have the same symptoms as you at one of the pools in my area. I switched to another pool (still run by the same recreation department) and have had no problems." Well all this is bearing fruit after all. I didn't expect that anybody else would have had similar symptoms. I've been using only one outdoor community association pool. I really don't know how close the closest public or lap pool is; I need to look into that. "I wonder whether there's something in the walls or the ceiling at the pool that we're allergic to - mould, fungus, etc.?" The pool was resurfaced at the beginning of the year. I don't remember what problems I had last year but I've had a problem the whole time this year. I've swam a whole lot more this year, more than ever before although I was in the pool frequently as a small kid. It seems that the longer I'm in the pool on a given day the more symptoms I have (in addition to the overall worsening). In the past, if I had nasal problems after swimming, I might not have thought so much about it since I have plenty of ongoing problems anyway. I've been tested to be allergic to mold as well as most of the rest of the things they probably tested for. "I admit, doesn't do anything for me either. I use Allegra, but it's still prescription only. Another thing you might want to try is Nasalcrom" I've given Allegra and Nasalcrom a good try. Neither works. I've been asked your original question, "Have your tried Claritin?", many times. I haven't tried the products that came out in the last several years so I should have a few new ones to try. "It's also ragweed season in California right now, and my sinuses have gone crazy." I'm sure that one gets me too. Possibly it is all the stuff that blows into the pool. Say when I cycle on a bad day, it is easier to recognize the problem. For one, the symptoms occur immediately and I may feel bad and my eyes will end up being bloodshot. Those noticeably bad days are not terribly frequent and mostly in the spring. After swimming, I never feel bad, quite the opposite. It is limited to the annoying nasal problems but a few times I have had trouble getting air because of the congestion. I particularly don't like this which almost never otherwise happens. Thanks much! I got some ideas to work on - probably for next year.
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