Learning to fly

Hi, new to the board, back in the pool about 4 months. Worked up to doing Mo Chambers workouts, but always substituting for fly in the IM's because I just never learned it. I've always been a lousy kicker, but I bought a pair of Zoomers and quit using the board, which has helped a bunch. I do dolphins front and side and flutter on my back. I just started to dolphin kick off the flip (without the fins), which has really helped reduce stroke count (10 catchup; 13 -- 14 normally; 15 + is a failed lap). I'm 6'2" and dropped from 200+ when I started down to 190 - 195, which feels great. Today I tried doing the fly legs in the IM's wearing the Zoomers, and I think there's some hope. Can a 44 year old lousy kicker learn to fly? Is it OK to learn with fins? Are there bad habits to watch out for when learning with or without the fins? Or should I forget about fly and just concentrate on the other three strokes? I'm having a lot of fun swimming again, love the workouts and chat here, and am not afraid of looking like a complete dweeb.
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  • Bill, Unless you would rather watch TV than swim butterfly, save your money. If you have a coach, listen to him, he will tell you everything that is on any tape for sale. My original post to you (since removed) was in support of your quest of swimming butterfly without struggling. Since then, you have gotten a lot of feedback about tapes and drills and such. I would not be surprised to find you confused at what to do first (or next). Repetition is the best training, and if you repeat the correct stroke, you will be happy with the results. Drills are something to do instead of real training. Go ahead, folks, quote that plenty! I don't know how much butterfly these other posters have done in their lives, but it is my favorite and best stroke, and I was paid by a university to swim it for 2 years (I was a transfer student). I totally reject the term butterstruggle because it demeans the stroke. Anyone who attempts to swim this stroke deserves respect and congratulations for their efforts.
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  • Bill, Unless you would rather watch TV than swim butterfly, save your money. If you have a coach, listen to him, he will tell you everything that is on any tape for sale. My original post to you (since removed) was in support of your quest of swimming butterfly without struggling. Since then, you have gotten a lot of feedback about tapes and drills and such. I would not be surprised to find you confused at what to do first (or next). Repetition is the best training, and if you repeat the correct stroke, you will be happy with the results. Drills are something to do instead of real training. Go ahead, folks, quote that plenty! I don't know how much butterfly these other posters have done in their lives, but it is my favorite and best stroke, and I was paid by a university to swim it for 2 years (I was a transfer student). I totally reject the term butterstruggle because it demeans the stroke. Anyone who attempts to swim this stroke deserves respect and congratulations for their efforts.
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