I was offered a presciption for steroids in 1952. I went to the library and found out what they were and I told my doctor no.
I knew all kinds of athletes who took them I don't think any one really benefitted from their use.
George Park
Former Member
I'm on the fourth floor ... But the windows don't open (crazy people that suicide proof everything!)
Actually, it is imperative to use the scientific method when determining whether a toxic substance can cause injury and how it can cause the injury. There have been countless times in the past where comon sense has dictated one conclusion, when it turned out to be wrong. The other question is dose. Just about any substance is toxic if you are exposed to enough of it. For instance, water can cause death if you drink to much of it.
Your example is far different than determining the effects of an exposure to a substance. In your example, there have been enough scientific tests to determine the outcome of such a fall, not to mention that there are no other factors that could cause the body to become demolished. However, the same cannot be said for side effects of exposure to a toxic substance.
Unfortunately, many people think that so called common sense should over ride the scientific process. In fact, many doctors will readily jump to conclusion when the science is not there. This has lead to increasing compilations of junk science and misconceptions being perpetuated by the media. In fact, I have yet to see the media get it right yet.
Having said all of that, my understanding is that there is evidence out there that suggests that excessive doses of testosterone will have harmful side effects on both sexes. It certainly would not be difficult to do an epi study to determine this either.
Blue Horn, I agree.....I have little knowledge of what studies determined what, with respect to steroid use....I DO know that enough data is out there to prove that EXCESS use of that junk can and will harm us....and I am indifferent to anyone who advocates the use of steroids unless under the direction of a Medical Dr. for medical reasons.
I do not have to be a fireman to know that if I stick my head in a hot oven, I am going to get burned.
Amen George.... Shirley B. said the same thing in the Olympics AND she got the nasty title hung around her neck for speaking up...they labeled her "Surly Shirley"..but SHE WAS DEAD RIGHT!
Originally posted by Tom Ellison
Amen George.... Shirley B. said the same thing in the Olympics AND she got the nasty title hung around her neck for speaking up...they labeled her "Curly Shirley"..but SHE WAS DEAD RIGHT! And they were not all east Germans...
Originally posted by Tom Ellison
Really? Where else....I only knew about the E. German programs...and years later the programs in China..... If you met them you would know I did. Dutch, Danish Russian, etc etc even a couple of americans.
