I noticed that there have been over 1500 views of the SUPERTEAM thread, but not many people commenting.
I was curious:
1) Look at having a club division vs. SUPERTEAM at Nationals.
2) Leave things just the way they are.
3) I need new, concrete information before I decide.
4) Don't care.
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Originally posted by lisa
To answer Lindsay's question- Fixed teams should never be considered in a Masters event-our whole organization is built on participation and inclusion, not exclusion. Any swimmer on a team who wants to go to Nationals should be able to do so.
Which is why I said:
Obviously the team limit shouldn't limit the number of participants but the number of swimmers whose results count in team competition.
and went on to explain how clubs could enter multiple teams in order to include as many people as possible. And you can always enter a team that is smaller than the fixed size if you want to ensure that everyone can participate, your choice.
The whole superteam controversy hinges on the inherent contradiction between having variable sized teams and any plausible sense of fairness. The idea that teams of different sizes can compete on a level field is simply ludicrous and yet people argue endlessly about what definition of club/superteam will make competition fair.
Originally posted by lisa
To answer Lindsay's question- Fixed teams should never be considered in a Masters event-our whole organization is built on participation and inclusion, not exclusion. Any swimmer on a team who wants to go to Nationals should be able to do so.
Which is why I said:
Obviously the team limit shouldn't limit the number of participants but the number of swimmers whose results count in team competition.
and went on to explain how clubs could enter multiple teams in order to include as many people as possible. And you can always enter a team that is smaller than the fixed size if you want to ensure that everyone can participate, your choice.
The whole superteam controversy hinges on the inherent contradiction between having variable sized teams and any plausible sense of fairness. The idea that teams of different sizes can compete on a level field is simply ludicrous and yet people argue endlessly about what definition of club/superteam will make competition fair.
