Originally posted by Karen Duggan
I think those club teams did well because it was an hour flight for us. That gets back to the geographical issue again...
Yup, and my point is that combined teams versus single clubs is not the right way to split things up, even if it is partially correlated to team size (which is very related to the current team standings).
As for the relays, my point is that most of the relays being formed do not place. From your posts, someone might get the impression that combined teams are all about team points at Nationals (and nothing else). I also pointed out that without a combined team, I go to less Nationals, because (for about half of the meets) there would be *zero* relays for me to swim on.
Originally posted by Karen Duggan
Your post illustrates my point:
If you look at the places you provided for the medium teams at Tempe and divided them into club and SUPERTEAM, 1st-3rd would have been the same in the club division, but the SUPERTEAMS would have moved up considerably in their own division.
My impression of your point, was that combined teams need to be segregated from other teams, because of some vague advantage. My post shows, that for this meet, "superteams" obviously did *not* have an advantage. (My point is also that *any* large club, like WCM, will have as much of an advantage over small clubs, as any combined team.)
Originally posted by Karen Duggan
I think those club teams did well because it was an hour flight for us. That gets back to the geographical issue again...
Yup, and my point is that combined teams versus single clubs is not the right way to split things up, even if it is partially correlated to team size (which is very related to the current team standings).
As for the relays, my point is that most of the relays being formed do not place. From your posts, someone might get the impression that combined teams are all about team points at Nationals (and nothing else). I also pointed out that without a combined team, I go to less Nationals, because (for about half of the meets) there would be *zero* relays for me to swim on.
Originally posted by Karen Duggan
Your post illustrates my point:
If you look at the places you provided for the medium teams at Tempe and divided them into club and SUPERTEAM, 1st-3rd would have been the same in the club division, but the SUPERTEAMS would have moved up considerably in their own division.
My impression of your point, was that combined teams need to be segregated from other teams, because of some vague advantage. My post shows, that for this meet, "superteams" obviously did *not* have an advantage. (My point is also that *any* large club, like WCM, will have as much of an advantage over small clubs, as any combined team.)
