Super teams

Originally posted by Karen Duggan Originally posted by Fritz I've been thinking about this a little more trying to see if I'm just missing it. 3) club teams are different than SUPERTEAMS (for reasons above and shouldn't be made to compete against them- no matter how good or bad either is) There's nothing here that shows anything about advantage or fairness. Different? OK but club teams are different as well. Karen, it's your fairness argument that I can't get. If you want to argue that there are different types of teams and we shouldn't mix then fine. I can sort of understand that. Just be prepared to define, in measurable terms, how teams are defined. QUOTE] Fritz, You ARE missing it. I said "different" (4th word from the left). I never said advantage. I only say "fair" not because we're not going to win or not win, it's about swimming apples with apples. That's why I used the gender and age examples. Women vs. women. Same age with same age, alike teams with alike teams! 'Geek, I wasn't sure if this was aimed at me or not: Do you think that I want a separate category so my team will win a prize? If you think that, you're wrong. That's not the point. Club teams are DIFFERENT than SUPERTEAMS and should be scored differently. I believe I mentioned I'd rather take my lumps against DAM than IM because DAM and WCM are similar. Ugh. Fine. You won't define fair for me so I'll just ignore it from now on. Teams differ for an endless list of reasons.

Originally posted by Karen Duggan Originally posted by Fritz I've been thinking about this a little more trying to see if I'm just missing it. 3) club teams are different than SUPERTEAMS (for reasons above and shouldn't be made to compete against them- no matter how good or bad either is) There's nothing here that shows anything about advantage or fairness. Different? OK but club teams are different as well. Karen, it's your fairness argument that I can't get. If you want to argue that there are different types of teams and we shouldn't mix then fine. I can sort of understand that. Just be prepared to define, in measurable terms, how teams are defined. QUOTE] Fritz, You ARE missing it. I said "different" (4th word from the left). I never said advantage. I only say "fair" not because we're not going to win or not win, it's about swimming apples with apples. That's why I used the gender and age examples. Women vs. women. Same age with same age, alike teams with alike teams! 'Geek, I wasn't sure if this was aimed at me or not: Do you think that I want a separate category so my team will win a prize? If you think that, you're wrong. That's not the point. Club teams are DIFFERENT than SUPERTEAMS and should be scored differently. I believe I mentioned I'd rather take my lumps against DAM than IM because DAM and WCM are similar. Ugh. Fine. You won't define fair for me so I'll just ignore it from now on. Teams differ for an endless list of reasons.