I finally made it to one of the local coached workouts and all in all it was a pretty positive experience. One of the comments about my stroke was that my hand entered the water in-line with the crown of my head. I was told that it should enter more in line with my shoulder. I've been practicing with this for the past 2 1/2 weeks and it seems to have negatively affected my roll and my stroke count. I can't seem to get a good glide at the end of my stroke, and when I roll, my arm is out away from my head and seems to be creating more drag. Am I missing something here? Was I told partial info? incorrect info? or am I not looking at the problem correctly?
Thanks John
Originally posted by 330man
Look at Phelps, lower portion of the photo unfortunately, and you will see that he is in a period of glide.
I just want to make sure we are on the same page.
From your previous posts, it sounds like you are saying that FQS implies that there must be a glide period. I have said that although you can have a glide (period where neither hand is pulling), it is not necessary for FQS.
You have given one example of someone who might be gliding. (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but these other posts have brought up the issue of overanalyzing one static picture.) That is completely consistent with my viewpoint.
If you want to focus on gliding (regardless of FQS), that's fine. Just wanted to make sure we aren't butting heads for no reason.
Suppose you are pulling, but the force applied is not enough to maintain your speed (ie. you are decelerating). Would you consider that gliding? I'm not sure I can agree with your statement that Phelps is not pulling. (Again, maybe the video is clearer than the single image I am looking at.) He is not in a position of favorable leverage yet, but it does look like his arm is pointed down (elbow high), in which case he might already be pulling.
Originally posted by 330man
There is clearly no propulsion coming from the man's arms and there hasn't been since his recovering hand left the water.
And for breastroker, one of my favorite anonymous saying:
When everyone agrees with you, you should be asking what you are doing wrong. :D
Originally posted by 330man
Look at Phelps, lower portion of the photo unfortunately, and you will see that he is in a period of glide.
I just want to make sure we are on the same page.
From your previous posts, it sounds like you are saying that FQS implies that there must be a glide period. I have said that although you can have a glide (period where neither hand is pulling), it is not necessary for FQS.
You have given one example of someone who might be gliding. (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but these other posts have brought up the issue of overanalyzing one static picture.) That is completely consistent with my viewpoint.
If you want to focus on gliding (regardless of FQS), that's fine. Just wanted to make sure we aren't butting heads for no reason.
Suppose you are pulling, but the force applied is not enough to maintain your speed (ie. you are decelerating). Would you consider that gliding? I'm not sure I can agree with your statement that Phelps is not pulling. (Again, maybe the video is clearer than the single image I am looking at.) He is not in a position of favorable leverage yet, but it does look like his arm is pointed down (elbow high), in which case he might already be pulling.
Originally posted by 330man
There is clearly no propulsion coming from the man's arms and there hasn't been since his recovering hand left the water.
And for breastroker, one of my favorite anonymous saying:
When everyone agrees with you, you should be asking what you are doing wrong. :D
