I was always wondering how much time you can shave down in like, 1 year .It is very interesting to know some experiences you had, guys - i.e. what is the biggest time improvement you ever had in one year.Any stroke and distance are welcome :-)))
Biggest time drop was first year of high school swimming. I'd been age group swimming since 6, but that was the first time I'd done serious weight lifting/dryland exercises/high yardage/technique work. Improved my 500 time by 30 seconds before the first meet, during a practice. Ended up dropping another 30 seconds by the sectional meet.
For Masters, my 1650 time has improved by 30 seconds each year for the last 4 years, and could possibly drop another 30 sec this coming year.
Kari, I agree with you on the stroke-couning method, 'cause I do cycles, too and that is so much easier, I think(maybe because you have some time to think about something else rather than number of strokes, lol).Just kidding.But yeah, I was shocked when you said you cover a length in 8 strokes, 8 cycles make more sense.It'd be nice to be able to do just 8 strokes...
[ So a person with a 6-foot wingspan who gets 7 yards glide off a wall would have 54 feet left to travel in the length and thus a goal of being able to cruise at 9 spl. At that point, depending on how seamless that swim style looks I might encourage an even lower stroke count.
HMM... 54 + 7 makes 61, that is roughly a 20 yard pool, 8-9 strokes per that length should not be hard to do.Kari referred to a 25-yard pool and I am used to a 25-meter pool where my best is 13 strokes(6.5 stroke cycles) so far.
HMM... 54 + 7 makes 61, that is roughly a 20 yard pool
No....it's a 7 "yard" glide Emmett said Not a 7 "foot" glide.....so it's a 21 foot glide....21 + 54 = 75 feet...i.e. 25 yards.
newmastersswimmer
I do 10 to 11 strokes for 25 meters on a good day, 25 meters 82.5 feet . Arm span is 80 inches and I am almost 6' 2 and a half inches tall bad days do12 to 13 srokes.
George
When I was a jr in college I swam the 500 in 5:17.12, 200 in 1:54.24 and 100 in 51.08, then Sr year I dropped to a 4:54.88. in the 500 1:49.32 in the 200 and 49.87 in the 100. It was a very good year.
Originally posted by hooked-on-swimming
Well, since we gently transformed this thread into a "number-of-strokes-per-length" thread, which is perfectly fine, I got to wonder - what would be the PERFECT range of strokes per length.We saw a few replies here where people claim to do 10 strokes or less, but the point is ... at what stage does it become ineffective to look for further decrease in number of strokes, i.e. you just start going slower (gliding a bit two long)though improved on strokes to a very impressive low count.Watching competitive swimmers I did not notice ANY OF THEM doing less than like 27-28 strokes per 50 meters, which is 14 per 25, even the tallest of them like Thorpe.Maybe there is some kind of perfect stage where you want to keep a certain # of strokes, 'cause decreasing them more will slow you down.Do I make any sense?
27-28 strokes per 50 mtrs equates to well under 14 per 25 - there is a turn in each 25 that is absent in the middle of a 50mtr length - probably worth 2+ strokes for a 6' swimmer. Also, you didn't see them at moderate or EZ paces where they do fewer strokes than at race paces. I've got an article on my web site "Questionable Stroke Counting" which addresses the oft-asked question of WHY one might choose to train at stroke counts lower than one would use in competitions.
Originally posted by newmastersswimmer
HMM... 54 + 7 makes 61, that is roughly a 20 yard pool
No....it's a 7 "yard" glide Emmett said Not a 7 "foot" glide.....so it's a 21 foot glide....21 + 54 = 75 feet...i.e. 25 yards.
newmastersswimmer
OOPS...You are right!I should've paid attention.What was I thinking anyway?lol... 7-foot glide... that'd be pretty bad, haha, especially for swimmers doing 8-9 strokes per length
Sorry, guys, my bad :-)))
