flip turn

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I am still new to swimming, so as practicing at the local pool I noticed that people do turns in freestyle differently.Some do a turn when you kinda do the somersault and some just sort of dive in and then just flip over on their side and then push off the wall.Obviously I cannot do either right now so I was wondering which one is the best to do and what is the exact way to do it. Thanks.
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    ME: My preference is to flip so that when my feet hit the wall, I'm completely on my back. I do a 90 degree rotate as I glide after the push so that I'm on my side when I break the surface and start my first stroke. Hooked: I was wondering how you glide after pushing off the wall - are you already on your side and gliding or do you stay on your back and do a 90 degree rotate to turn on your side just before breaking the surface.Is it legal to glide a little while on your back after you push off the walls in freestyle? Thanks. On the initial push I am as much on my back as I can be. (Sometimes I am already a little rotated, but for the way I do it, that happens as a factor of fatigue and sloppiness. And I find that the more I am already rotated when my feet hit the wall, the deeper my feet are when they hit the wall, meaning I have sunk, and therefore have slowed down from drag.) So at best, I am entiely on my back. In fact, as I am flipping, I am already extending my legs outward toward the wall so that, on my best turns I am almost fully (if not entirely fully extended) when my feet hit the wall. I have not reall noticed how much of the spring off the wall is in my legs as opposed to just my feet, but I would say that almost all of my spring comes from my calf muscles and my feet, not my quads and hamstrings. And yes, at the point I push off, I am still on my back. I use a little "finesse" with my feet to get my body to rotate. I am fully streamlined at this point, and it doesn't take much to rotate only 90 degrees. Maybe I do something with some other part of my body (some subtle head or shoulder movement maybe) but I am not aware of it if I do. Maybe I do something with my legs, but again, I can't say that I do for sure. I rotate to the side on which I will be taking my first breath. When I break the water, I am already in perfect position for that first breath. I've been doing this for decades, really, and it is now second nature and effortless. I always break the surface beyond the backstroke flags, and even farther if I add a dolphin kick (though my dolphin kicks are horrible and drain far more energy than they seem worth to me!)
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    ME: My preference is to flip so that when my feet hit the wall, I'm completely on my back. I do a 90 degree rotate as I glide after the push so that I'm on my side when I break the surface and start my first stroke. Hooked: I was wondering how you glide after pushing off the wall - are you already on your side and gliding or do you stay on your back and do a 90 degree rotate to turn on your side just before breaking the surface.Is it legal to glide a little while on your back after you push off the walls in freestyle? Thanks. On the initial push I am as much on my back as I can be. (Sometimes I am already a little rotated, but for the way I do it, that happens as a factor of fatigue and sloppiness. And I find that the more I am already rotated when my feet hit the wall, the deeper my feet are when they hit the wall, meaning I have sunk, and therefore have slowed down from drag.) So at best, I am entiely on my back. In fact, as I am flipping, I am already extending my legs outward toward the wall so that, on my best turns I am almost fully (if not entirely fully extended) when my feet hit the wall. I have not reall noticed how much of the spring off the wall is in my legs as opposed to just my feet, but I would say that almost all of my spring comes from my calf muscles and my feet, not my quads and hamstrings. And yes, at the point I push off, I am still on my back. I use a little "finesse" with my feet to get my body to rotate. I am fully streamlined at this point, and it doesn't take much to rotate only 90 degrees. Maybe I do something with some other part of my body (some subtle head or shoulder movement maybe) but I am not aware of it if I do. Maybe I do something with my legs, but again, I can't say that I do for sure. I rotate to the side on which I will be taking my first breath. When I break the water, I am already in perfect position for that first breath. I've been doing this for decades, really, and it is now second nature and effortless. I always break the surface beyond the backstroke flags, and even farther if I add a dolphin kick (though my dolphin kicks are horrible and drain far more energy than they seem worth to me!)
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