At the U.S. Trials there was one official in every lane looking at the turns, so now that we're in Athens, how does Kitajima get away with that dolphin kick on his turn? It seemed clear to me from the above water shot, then was confirmed with the underwater. Other breaststrokers care to weigh in?
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Fair enough George. You did not intentionally break the rules when you were dq'd just like I was not trying to cheat when at the end of my first and only 200 fly for Occidental against the University of Redlands in their 33 and a third yard pool in 1973 I started my stroke at the finish, then pulled short and touched (*** pull rather than completing the fly stroke . . . not trying to cheat, just fricking exhausted and not thinking) and got dq'd (would have scored at 3rd place . . . isn't it amazing what sticks with you?) and like I didn't mean to jump early on our relay at SCY Nats in Phoenix last year, but got dq'd for that too.
At any rate, perhaps it was "inadvertent" . . . I don't believe so (how do you accidently dolphin?) but have no personal knowledge of facts one way or the other. Nevertheless, it was still a clear rule violation and one to his advantage. I experimented today at practice and did pushoffs with and without a single dolphin kick . . . absolutely got farther with the kick than without. And if it was intentional, that makes it (in my estimation) worse.
If it was inadvertent, then no intent, but still illegal.
If intentional, cheating.
Both should lead to a dq.
Oh well, life is short, gotta go home and watch some swimming.
carl
Fair enough George. You did not intentionally break the rules when you were dq'd just like I was not trying to cheat when at the end of my first and only 200 fly for Occidental against the University of Redlands in their 33 and a third yard pool in 1973 I started my stroke at the finish, then pulled short and touched (*** pull rather than completing the fly stroke . . . not trying to cheat, just fricking exhausted and not thinking) and got dq'd (would have scored at 3rd place . . . isn't it amazing what sticks with you?) and like I didn't mean to jump early on our relay at SCY Nats in Phoenix last year, but got dq'd for that too.
At any rate, perhaps it was "inadvertent" . . . I don't believe so (how do you accidently dolphin?) but have no personal knowledge of facts one way or the other. Nevertheless, it was still a clear rule violation and one to his advantage. I experimented today at practice and did pushoffs with and without a single dolphin kick . . . absolutely got farther with the kick than without. And if it was intentional, that makes it (in my estimation) worse.
If it was inadvertent, then no intent, but still illegal.
If intentional, cheating.
Both should lead to a dq.
Oh well, life is short, gotta go home and watch some swimming.
carl
