Anybody else out there detect out there a petulant tone from Ian Thorpe on the subject of Michael Phelps?
Context:
Back in 2002, Thorpe was toying with the idea of swimming some non-free events in order to achieve a Spitz-lie medal haul in 2004. People pointed to his background in backstroke and possiblity of swimming IM as possible avenues. He wisely ducked out of backstroke when it became apparent that the 100 back is one of strongest events in the world right now.
He then tried to the 200 IM, before Phelps emerged on the scene in late 2002/2003 an event that was dominated by 28 year-old Europeans but then got trounced by Phelps in this event at Worlds.
Phelps performance at Worlds in 2003 overshadowed Thorpe and the great Aussie start shelved his plans to branch out. He's now aiming for 200/400 gold and is a darkhouse candidate for 100 gold.
Recent Snipes from Thorpe:
1) When asked about the probability of Phelps hauling in multiple medals he retorted it's "impossible" (o.k. that's a defensible position) and further more "no one should even try". (sounds like he's jealous to me). Phelps to his credited responded, "Spitz did it once" and "he's talking about himself not me".
2) Recently when asked if he was worried about Phelps in the 200 free, Thorpe's reply ..."we're worrried about the whoe field". He's not giving Phelps any credit for challenging him in an event that the 19 year old is really the underdog but wants to race it for the challenge and experience.
3) Now Thorpe is smearing the reptuation of his unnamed competitors by claiming that "I've raced against competitors that are using drugs" and "the sport is not clean".
What kind of champion is Thorpe? He's not helping our sport with his attitude. Why not welcome the competition and be gracious about it. Why not wish Phelps good luck but tell him that he'll have his hands full beating him in the 200. If he has evidence about illegal drug use why not name names and not hide behind blanket accusations. And let's remind the Thorpedo if Phelps does accomplish his medal haul there is no crying in swimming.
BTW, for the record the US men beat the Australian men in all three relays.
PS: The Aussie women's team is the strongest ever and will likely beat the US women in 2 of the 3 relays.
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But I'd like to add a little different perspective to this. Colleges are struggling to survive financially. Football and Basketball are the two biggest athletic moneymakers in the college world. In most cases, additional $$$ funneled to these two sports come back multiplied in revenue. (Gate revenue, TV, bowl games and tournament payouts, merchandizing.)
According to the paper I cited earlier:
Football and basketball we’re told, over and over again until we no longer question it, are “revenue sports.” Well, yes, at Notre Dame and USC and Penn State. But, according to the NCAA, they are money losers at the vast majority of colleges and universities. Last year, according to the NCAA, well over 80 percent of Div. IA and IAA football teams lost money.
The problem seems to be that the forces that act on college athletic directors tend to encourage them to put every available penny into football and basketball. Title IX prevents them from cutting women's programs without making corresponding cuts to men's programs. We can all come to our own conclusions about whether the problem is that football and basketball are crowding out all other sports or that Title IX prevents women's sports from taking the brunt of the cuts.
But I'd like to add a little different perspective to this. Colleges are struggling to survive financially. Football and Basketball are the two biggest athletic moneymakers in the college world. In most cases, additional $$$ funneled to these two sports come back multiplied in revenue. (Gate revenue, TV, bowl games and tournament payouts, merchandizing.)
According to the paper I cited earlier:
Football and basketball we’re told, over and over again until we no longer question it, are “revenue sports.” Well, yes, at Notre Dame and USC and Penn State. But, according to the NCAA, they are money losers at the vast majority of colleges and universities. Last year, according to the NCAA, well over 80 percent of Div. IA and IAA football teams lost money.
The problem seems to be that the forces that act on college athletic directors tend to encourage them to put every available penny into football and basketball. Title IX prevents them from cutting women's programs without making corresponding cuts to men's programs. We can all come to our own conclusions about whether the problem is that football and basketball are crowding out all other sports or that Title IX prevents women's sports from taking the brunt of the cuts.
