I started diving off of starting blocks when I was eight years old. I am now 51, and train at the Y, almost always alone, as there is no Masters program in the county where I live, or in any of the immediately adjacent counties. (There are several age group programs.) I want to work on my starts, but none of the Y's where I swim will let me use the blocks - saying that a national Y policy prohibits anyone from using the blocks unless a team/club coach is on the deck.
I have never heard of anyone suing a YMCA because of an accident on a starting block.
Yes, perhaps a coach would be valuable to me in this regard, but I'm not looking for a coach - I need and want a cooperative facility. The age groups' program schedules are not conducive to my schedule, and besides, the age group coaches already have enough on their hands during those times with lanes full of kids working their programs. I also am not excited about having to dodge those kids to do the work I need to do.
Anyone find a way to conquer this litigation-fear-induced insanity yet? Thank you.
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We all take calculated risks all the time, and usually understand the downside of the risk.
for example, when I drink coffee in a car I expect to be able to sip without burning my lips immediately (not so with 190 degree coffee) I would be surprised and more damaged than I would have expected.
for example, if I drink coffee in a car, and hit an unexpected bump, causing me to squeeze my styrofoam cup, which causes the lid to pop off and drench the front of my shirt, I expect, at the worst, a first degree burn, uncomfortable cold later on, and embarrassment at the office. (that is, in fact, what happened.) That is the downside of the risk I take, and I accept it when I drink coffee in the car. I do not expect to spend several days in the hospital with second and third degree burns.
We are not talking about hot coffee here, we are talking about almost-boiling coffee. Emmett's coffee is hot, but not what we are talking about. Do you guys realize how hot is hot? Putting 167 or 172 degree coffee (already 20 degrees colder!) into a ceramic cup and it is not 167 or 172 degrees any more. I doubt any of you drink coffee, ever, that is nearly as hot as we are talking about.
If I served coffee at a drive through, I would expect accidents to happen, and it would not be responsible for me to sell a product when the consequences are so serious, especially when the customer does not expect the coffee to be as hot as it is. I would feel responsible if someone got hurt by my unusually hot coffee. I would expect to get sued by the tenth (or whatever) seriously injured customer.
I expect McDonalds to be as responsible as I am, especially if it has been told about the situation, several times.
We all take calculated risks all the time, and usually understand the downside of the risk.
for example, when I drink coffee in a car I expect to be able to sip without burning my lips immediately (not so with 190 degree coffee) I would be surprised and more damaged than I would have expected.
for example, if I drink coffee in a car, and hit an unexpected bump, causing me to squeeze my styrofoam cup, which causes the lid to pop off and drench the front of my shirt, I expect, at the worst, a first degree burn, uncomfortable cold later on, and embarrassment at the office. (that is, in fact, what happened.) That is the downside of the risk I take, and I accept it when I drink coffee in the car. I do not expect to spend several days in the hospital with second and third degree burns.
We are not talking about hot coffee here, we are talking about almost-boiling coffee. Emmett's coffee is hot, but not what we are talking about. Do you guys realize how hot is hot? Putting 167 or 172 degree coffee (already 20 degrees colder!) into a ceramic cup and it is not 167 or 172 degrees any more. I doubt any of you drink coffee, ever, that is nearly as hot as we are talking about.
If I served coffee at a drive through, I would expect accidents to happen, and it would not be responsible for me to sell a product when the consequences are so serious, especially when the customer does not expect the coffee to be as hot as it is. I would feel responsible if someone got hurt by my unusually hot coffee. I would expect to get sued by the tenth (or whatever) seriously injured customer.
I expect McDonalds to be as responsible as I am, especially if it has been told about the situation, several times.
