I started diving off of starting blocks when I was eight years old. I am now 51, and train at the Y, almost always alone, as there is no Masters program in the county where I live, or in any of the immediately adjacent counties. (There are several age group programs.) I want to work on my starts, but none of the Y's where I swim will let me use the blocks - saying that a national Y policy prohibits anyone from using the blocks unless a team/club coach is on the deck.
I have never heard of anyone suing a YMCA because of an accident on a starting block.
Yes, perhaps a coach would be valuable to me in this regard, but I'm not looking for a coach - I need and want a cooperative facility. The age groups' program schedules are not conducive to my schedule, and besides, the age group coaches already have enough on their hands during those times with lanes full of kids working their programs. I also am not excited about having to dodge those kids to do the work I need to do.
Anyone find a way to conquer this litigation-fear-induced insanity yet? Thank you.
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Originally posted by botterud
"No trial lawyer would take the case because there wasn't millions to be made - only maybe thousands - if that."
You know, the vitriol that has been spewed in this thread towards lawyers has, in my opinion, gone far enough. Are there bad, greedy lawyers? Sure. Just like there are bad greedy doctors, insurance adjusters, swim coaches and so on.
Most of the lawyers, doctors, swim coaches I know are decent, reasonable, hard working human beings. Many lawyers and doctors do a significant amount of pro bono work to help people who otherwise could not afford counsel at no charge.
There are lawyers who are masters swimmers just like you guys on this forum. We swim pool races, ocean races, volunteer in our communities, raise our families, do our jobs and treat others as we would like to be treated. Heck, there were five lawyers in the water at practice this morning and you know what, not one shark joke from our teammates.
So why not turn the bile down a notch? Remember, karma can be a b**ch.
carl botterud
Carl,
I apologize. You are correct that it is a small percentage of lawyers that are of this mindset. It is unfortunate that the whole profession is painted one way by the few. If you are a lawyer, I must say that I don't know anything about you or your practice. It is wrong for me to make generalizations.
I still feel that in the case of the McD's coffee, if it was a local diner with modest resources and a smaller insurance policy, it would have been handled differently.
Heck, as an engineer, I would like to say that we don't all wear pocket protectors in white shirts, flood water pants and thick black glasses taped in the middle! (We do take interest in things that most people would care less about though.)
Originally posted by botterud
"No trial lawyer would take the case because there wasn't millions to be made - only maybe thousands - if that."
You know, the vitriol that has been spewed in this thread towards lawyers has, in my opinion, gone far enough. Are there bad, greedy lawyers? Sure. Just like there are bad greedy doctors, insurance adjusters, swim coaches and so on.
Most of the lawyers, doctors, swim coaches I know are decent, reasonable, hard working human beings. Many lawyers and doctors do a significant amount of pro bono work to help people who otherwise could not afford counsel at no charge.
There are lawyers who are masters swimmers just like you guys on this forum. We swim pool races, ocean races, volunteer in our communities, raise our families, do our jobs and treat others as we would like to be treated. Heck, there were five lawyers in the water at practice this morning and you know what, not one shark joke from our teammates.
So why not turn the bile down a notch? Remember, karma can be a b**ch.
carl botterud
Carl,
I apologize. You are correct that it is a small percentage of lawyers that are of this mindset. It is unfortunate that the whole profession is painted one way by the few. If you are a lawyer, I must say that I don't know anything about you or your practice. It is wrong for me to make generalizations.
I still feel that in the case of the McD's coffee, if it was a local diner with modest resources and a smaller insurance policy, it would have been handled differently.
Heck, as an engineer, I would like to say that we don't all wear pocket protectors in white shirts, flood water pants and thick black glasses taped in the middle! (We do take interest in things that most people would care less about though.)
