I think it is sad we have slipped down the slope we call “being civil”. Being away from these posts for the better part of a week has allowed me to look at them in a different light then before. The thoughts and feelings of many of the people who post here are very raw right now. Decency, understanding, compassion, patience and kindness have been lost to pain and anger.
I have learned some very valuable lessons over the past nineteen months. Often, anger is directly driven by pain. I read pain into many of the post here. People have offended one another and tramped on each others toes and people have been hurt emotionally.
Gosh, I am the farthest thing from a counselor or referee for that matter, but I am qualified to say that each of us has good days, and each of us has bad days. Without exception, EVERY SINGLE POSTER was decent, understanding and compassionate towards me during a very tough time in my life. Ion has a way of invoking anger and hostility in people. Having said that, he reached out to me during a very tough time and demonstrated a very different and compassionate side then the one we see here.
My point, in the final annalists we call life, what more do we really have then one another? We are a body of swimmers who share a common bond for the love of swimming and adult exercise in the water. Let us keep to this course as opposed to offending one another and fracturing our beloved sport with pain, hard feelings and anger. We are different, yet, we are the same. We all love our children, we all want to excel in life, we all want to think of ourselves are winners, we all want to be free people, we all want to raise our families and enjoy life as best we can. Regardless of how fast we are, how smart we are or anything else…. in the final toll….we all want and strive for many of the same things. As we all did on playgrounds all over the world as children, let’s shake hands and make up….
Former Member
Originally posted by Tom Ellison
Connie..if he fell in the forest and no one was there would the tree hear it?
But the real question is, what if that was a late blooming tree?
I think we need to confer in the sandbox before scientifically answering this.
Originally posted by Tom Ellison
When I was married and had a house....and all that stuff...I hated spring....they started this stupid day light savings time....and gave us an extra hour of sunshine...heck, I tried to keep a nice yard...and it got enough sun as it was ....without them adding an extra hour of sun....
How do you other guys keep your yards nice with the extra hour of sun? Maybe a good new topic...
Oh that's an easy one... I pay someone else to do it! And not only do I have a purtty yard I also have two (one from DST and one from not doing yard work) more hours to go to the pool.
Originally posted by nyswim
Ion-
Maybe you should back off a bit. If you are still doing those killer workouts you are going to be burnt out by Nats. Does your coach believe in tapers?
The coach believes in tapers.
I respond funny to tapers.
Since I came to U.S., this Masters program is the closest to the professionalism of college varsity programs that I found across U.S..
And I include the Stanford Masters in 1996.
Yesterday's workout was:
.) technique
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-dives, starts, relay starts, stroke, breath control, and it gets into more technique than ever, don't look at me, there are two things that apply to my technique, one is 'you cannot teach an old dog new tricks', another is that at slow speed I deliver good technique but at high speed under the stress of the load technique is sacrificed in the process, not just for me but for Olympians too-
and
.) pace
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-not grind, but pace-.
Yesterday, in pace 200s, I was fighting like a lion to get pathetic 2:29 in my repeats in 2:45.
Where are the 4x200 leaving every 2:30 (and coming in 2:25) that I have done Monday December 1st., and where are the 5x200 leaving every 2:30 that I have done Monday December 8th.?
My 2003 1,000 free in 12:25 would have been threatened December 1st., December 8, and many other days in January 2004.
Originally posted by MetroSwim
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Also, up to this point, I remain unaware of any declarations that range beyond the limits of the rational and delve into the realm of "paranormal superstitions",...
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I am not religious.
Many posters in this forum are.
When they speak about abilities -like in swimming-, they are speaking in paranormal terms.
I was educated in Europe, East and West, and Europe is secular.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
The coach believes in tapers.
I respond funny to tapers.
With the kind of yardage you put in, you should taper really well. Maybe you just haven't had the right kind of taper, or maybe the tapers were too long or too short. You should start now (of course that's just my opinion).
Originally posted by aquageek
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Europe - secular? Just curious what those in the Vatican would say about that.
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Ask Vatican.
For people from my generation, when I was in France, Vatican is a business.
French were secular when I was there for eleven years in the late 70s to late 80s, and are as secular as banning religious dress (veils, hats) in public places (like public schools and government buildings), four months ago.
In fact the Europeans laugh at the religiousness of U.S., and consider it a culture of third-world superstitions.
Originally posted by mattson
So you are saying that these same Europeans were laughing at Albert Einstein? Christians number over 1 billion worldwide, let alone Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, etc. (Pardon to any groups I've forgotten. :) )
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Check it out in France.
Hint:
.) I am more fluent in French than I am in English;
.) that's how well I know the French culture and the U.S. culture.
Anyway, Rich asked what paranormal claims I talk about in swimming, and I answered that it is believing in religion when it comes to abilities in swimming.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
In fact the Europeans laugh at the religiousness of U.S., and consider it a culture of third-world superstitions.
That's what I thought you meant a couple of posts back.
Ion, I've LIVED (not visited) in Europe also. It was not my experience that Europeans laugh at the religiousness of the US, nor do they consider it a culture of third-world superstitions. Most respect the religious beliefs of others. And those that don't aren't restricted to Europe, the US, Middle East, etc.
Stop stating your beliefs as fact.
Lainey
