Originally posted by Conniekat8
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so, then you use the incerased drag sets sparingly, so the changed body position doesn't become secod nature, but you still have some increased resistance sets in your workout to challenge the muscles.
My muscles get challenged enough on sets with "normal" amounts of drag!
tjburk: thanks for the clarification, but I still don't think these methods add anything, but I can see the appeal if it adds some variety to workouts. And, no, I don't coach, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything about coaching.
One thing that just struck me as funny: why do people think it's so strange for a man to wear a woman's suit anyway? Heck, that's pretty much like men's suits looked like back in the day. Think about the picture of JFK when he swam for Harvard! Now if you could get your hands on some of those suits--that would give you some extra drag! You would also be required to swim without goggles :)
Originally posted by knelson
One thing that just struck me as funny: why do people think it's so strange for a man to wear a woman's suit anyway?
I suggest you wear a woman's suit to your next practice and gauge reaction. Heck, wear a woman's thong suit and really push the envelope.
I'll tell you why people think it's so strange for a man to wear a woman's suit - BECAUSE IT IS STRANGE. I'm not sure why that needs any type of explanation.
Sad to say, we actually used this in high school. The team would shave and taper for sectionals. The state qualifier was the week after. To try to reduce the "shaved" feeling during the week of training, we would wear old t-shirts, pantyhose, women's suits, whatever.
I don't know how much it increased drag (or reduced our lifespans, those suits are very constricting down below ;) ), but it definitely made you forget about the feel of the water (from being shaved). And it digs into neck/shoulder muscles.
Originally posted by aquageek
I suggest you wear a woman's suit to your next practice and gauge reaction.
Point taken. I think I'll pass on this experiment!
Uh-uh... sounds a bit creepy to me... How does he manage to get them to wear girls' suits, anyway?
:eek:
Some drag may be beneficial- but this sounds somewhat inappropriate...
Good luckwith it!
Nelson, do you coach? If so, go do some research on things that are being used these days to ENHANCE training! No injury involved!!! If you don't coach, SHUT UP and talk about something you know! IMO
Many coaches use sprint assisted and sprint resisted training techniques. For resistance they use surgical tubing and a pulley with weights--Gary Hall Jr. trained with this under Mike Bottom. Maglischo (who is a coach) agrees with Nelson that wearing clothing (male, female or other) is of no benefit and may adversely affect your stroke (see Swimming Fastest).
Alright, let me clarify what I mean! To give a blanket stament that these things are only used by a damn fool is going way to far! When used in the right context, at the right time, they are very useful! Like, tennis shoes on the feet while you are pulling! A lot of people tend to kick even with a pull bouy, putting tennis shoes on or an inner tube around the ankles takes the feet out of the equation. T-Shirts can be used while doing relays for fun to mix things up. I should have said this in the beginning.
Originally posted by Tarzan
Well, to be totally honest, I agree with you. However I know of a swim team that wears girl suits when they practice. And since I am of the opinion there are pleanty of "guy drag suits" why would you need to wear girl suits? I also though wearing a girl suit would mess up your strokes since you have added pressure to your shoulders etc.
maybe they're hand-me-downs, stretched out swimsuits may be a cheap solution to adding drag.
I have about a dozen streatched out old suits that could be used for added drag and i can only use one at the time. If someone wanted the extras, I'd gladly give them away just before I toss them out.
Cheaper that getting a specialized drag bucket or a parachute.
