The Fastest Age

Originally posted by Ion Beza The entire post that gives the quote below is worthy, and I highlight this: So a medical doctor thinks like my intuition is: "...problem is the undercapillarization of his triceps, lats, etc..." and "...building up a rich capillary bed around muscle fibers which were previously "white" and relatively avascular..." and "...it's much more related to muscle physiology than to technique..." That's what I say when I emphasize conditioning: "...it's much more related to muscle physiology than to technique..." Regarding Andy Bray, one has to note that he swam in the 'animal lane' with 1500 free gold medal winner of the 1976 Olympics, Brian Gooddell, under the distance coach Mark Schubert at Mission Viejo. Distance coach Mark Schubert also produced the 1500 free gold medal winner of the 1984 Olympics, Mike O'Brien. Now, Mark Schubert is at USC, and Mission Viejo is under Bill Rose -who produced the tough Mike Bruner, winner of the 200 fly in the 1976 Olympics, and who is producing for the 2004 U.S. Olympic Trials Chad Carvin, Larsen Jensen and Justin Mortimer-. Distance coach Mark Schubert also produced the 100 and 200 backstroke winner of the 2000 Olympics, Lenny Krayzelburg, and in 2000 he produced the first sub 15:00 per 1500 meter free in U.S. (14:59), in Erik Vendt. Well Ion, I swim with Brian Godell almost every morning and just helped him with the sectional meet few weeks ago, I also get to chat with Chad and Justin and Larsen and Dawn almost whenever I want to, as we share most of our morning workouts with our national team. My own coaches two kids swim on the Junior national team. I'm a lot mopre familiar with it all then you are, and have daily access to the first hand information... In case you haven't noticed, I'm a MV Nadador. Anyway, you missed the point of that post... Muscle physiology is differenmt from the VO2Max that you keep tralking about. This is precisely where I disagree with you. You seem to lump the VO2Max together with muscle development and physiology,and that is mediacally incorrect. Maybe that's why you are misunderstood, you lump the two together, and your arguments end up making no sense. I never opposed the fact taht muscle physiology plays an important role. Other than a medical fact, that;s jsutplain common sense. As you read (because you claim to pay attenmtion) this same doctor said that VO2Max doesn't enter the equation with any significance. This defeats your VO2max arguments, and VO2MAx holding you back. You must have noticed that, since you didn't comment on it at all, but instead yet again bent your argument, and latched on a tidbit that may support your claims, and ignored the portion that disproves your theory. Unlike your belief, us lowly USMS parrots and believers do pay attention. This same doctor also said in this article (paraphrasing) taht VO2Max plays more important role in cycling or running etc... and with you being a former soccer player, you have had a lot of chance to develop an above average VO2Max. There is an additional series of questions that I asked my MD friens, about the muscle physiology, and to what extent it can be changed in adulthood. I hope to hear from him sometime this afternoon/evening, so stay tuned. I also invited him to sheck out this thread, if he has time. I'm not sure if he will have time. If he comes by, try to not butt heads with him, as you may be able to learn a lot from him, and ultimatley your performance may benefit. See, if muscle physiology couldn't be changed in adulthood, then it would be near impossible for many people to beciome body-builders past 19, and that is just not the case, most body builders peak past their teens or 20's. I'll try to tape your swims at the nationals, so we have some first hand evidence of your technique. Do you use video analysis in your training? You might be interested in coming to some of our clinics, have yourself taped above and under water. We're soon going to have the 'dart swim' equipement where you can see yourself and your technique compared, and have video side by side or superimposed with the top swimmers, like Popov. Rather than arguing abstracts with you, I'm inviting you to come by and do some practical evaluations with us.

Originally posted by Ion Beza The entire post that gives the quote below is worthy, and I highlight this: So a medical doctor thinks like my intuition is: "...problem is the undercapillarization of his triceps, lats, etc..." and "...building up a rich capillary bed around muscle fibers which were previously "white" and relatively avascular..." and "...it's much more related to muscle physiology than to technique..." That's what I say when I emphasize conditioning: "...it's much more related to muscle physiology than to technique..." Regarding Andy Bray, one has to note that he swam in the 'animal lane' with 1500 free gold medal winner of the 1976 Olympics, Brian Gooddell, under the distance coach Mark Schubert at Mission Viejo. Distance coach Mark Schubert also produced the 1500 free gold medal winner of the 1984 Olympics, Mike O'Brien. Now, Mark Schubert is at USC, and Mission Viejo is under Bill Rose -who produced the tough Mike Bruner, winner of the 200 fly in the 1976 Olympics, and who is producing for the 2004 U.S. Olympic Trials Chad Carvin, Larsen Jensen and Justin Mortimer-. Distance coach Mark Schubert also produced the 100 and 200 backstroke winner of the 2000 Olympics, Lenny Krayzelburg, and in 2000 he produced the first sub 15:00 per 1500 meter free in U.S. (14:59), in Erik Vendt. Well Ion, I swim with Brian Godell almost every morning and just helped him with the sectional meet few weeks ago, I also get to chat with Chad and Justin and Larsen and Dawn almost whenever I want to, as we share most of our morning workouts with our national team. My own coaches two kids swim on the Junior national team. I'm a lot mopre familiar with it all then you are, and have daily access to the first hand information... In case you haven't noticed, I'm a MV Nadador. Anyway, you missed the point of that post... Muscle physiology is differenmt from the VO2Max that you keep tralking about. This is precisely where I disagree with you. You seem to lump the VO2Max together with muscle development and physiology,and that is mediacally incorrect. Maybe that's why you are misunderstood, you lump the two together, and your arguments end up making no sense. I never opposed the fact taht muscle physiology plays an important role. Other than a medical fact, that;s jsutplain common sense. As you read (because you claim to pay attenmtion) this same doctor said that VO2Max doesn't enter the equation with any significance. This defeats your VO2max arguments, and VO2MAx holding you back. You must have noticed that, since you didn't comment on it at all, but instead yet again bent your argument, and latched on a tidbit that may support your claims, and ignored the portion that disproves your theory. Unlike your belief, us lowly USMS parrots and believers do pay attention. This same doctor also said in this article (paraphrasing) taht VO2Max plays more important role in cycling or running etc... and with you being a former soccer player, you have had a lot of chance to develop an above average VO2Max. There is an additional series of questions that I asked my MD friens, about the muscle physiology, and to what extent it can be changed in adulthood. I hope to hear from him sometime this afternoon/evening, so stay tuned. I also invited him to sheck out this thread, if he has time. I'm not sure if he will have time. If he comes by, try to not butt heads with him, as you may be able to learn a lot from him, and ultimatley your performance may benefit. See, if muscle physiology couldn't be changed in adulthood, then it would be near impossible for many people to beciome body-builders past 19, and that is just not the case, most body builders peak past their teens or 20's. I'll try to tape your swims at the nationals, so we have some first hand evidence of your technique. Do you use video analysis in your training? You might be interested in coming to some of our clinics, have yourself taped above and under water. We're soon going to have the 'dart swim' equipement where you can see yourself and your technique compared, and have video side by side or superimposed with the top swimmers, like Popov. Rather than arguing abstracts with you, I'm inviting you to come by and do some practical evaluations with us.