The Fastest Age

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What is the fastest age for a swimmer(mine seems to be faster as i get older and yes i swam as a youngster...now im 37..)?
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    A quick note after observing the last posts is: .) unlike Paul says, I do have above-average flexibility as medically measured on dry land -I kept the results file, and I work on my flexibility every morning-, but Paul refers to what lack of flexibility he sees in the water, which is a part of technique; even in the water, watching my kick explode and hips roll show blatant flexibility and technique, but again Paul catches on the lack of technique that is glaring to him, start, turns, streamline and bilateral breathing; however, I emphasize again, that swimming fast is not ballet; there are examples of past fast swimmers and now of current fast swimmers (Hoogenband and Ervin) who lack the abstract 'technique' of being symetrical, streamlined after the turns and good starts and are fast mainly on fitness -which I theorize here is VO2Max-; .) front-quadrant swimming is described as having both arms in the front quadrant; rotary swimming is not front quadrant swimming, the arms are shown at all times of a cycle in the Swimming Technique of May/June 2003 as being in opposition, almost 180 degrees apart, one in the front quadrant and the other in the rear quadrant; to achieve this opposition, there is no pause after the front arm entered the water (unlike T.I. recommends), the arm has to pull the body in the water as fast as the other arm travels in the air; this is why the rotary style is faster, more muscular and tiring than the ovelapping style; (here is more technique that you are used too, already.) .) I do more technique in the workouts where I am than what it is said in this forum; the program where I am since November 2002 has more technique incorporated in it that what I have seen done everywhere else in USMS in eight years; how far does technique compared to conditioning take a late bloomer? not far; even in this forum I snicker at the proponents of technique who I know -don't let me name them, because they feel good to say 'technique'- that they remain slow; technique is second to conditioning, not first; from what I read coming off U.S. Swimming sources, it is conditioning that drives technique, not vice-versa; .) regarding my 'irrelevent' comment on 90% of Masters Swimmers being slower than me, I don't think it is irrelevent; it is a measure of character tenacity; Champions like Popov and Salnikov became such after their age-group swimming because of their character, not because of their natural ability compared to others; At my level, I despise -to their face- people who don't have the character to do things with the goal of improvement when they resort to cop out excuses and duck challenges in what they say that they do; .) to address what was posted in addition to my note here, I have to think...
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    A quick note after observing the last posts is: .) unlike Paul says, I do have above-average flexibility as medically measured on dry land -I kept the results file, and I work on my flexibility every morning-, but Paul refers to what lack of flexibility he sees in the water, which is a part of technique; even in the water, watching my kick explode and hips roll show blatant flexibility and technique, but again Paul catches on the lack of technique that is glaring to him, start, turns, streamline and bilateral breathing; however, I emphasize again, that swimming fast is not ballet; there are examples of past fast swimmers and now of current fast swimmers (Hoogenband and Ervin) who lack the abstract 'technique' of being symetrical, streamlined after the turns and good starts and are fast mainly on fitness -which I theorize here is VO2Max-; .) front-quadrant swimming is described as having both arms in the front quadrant; rotary swimming is not front quadrant swimming, the arms are shown at all times of a cycle in the Swimming Technique of May/June 2003 as being in opposition, almost 180 degrees apart, one in the front quadrant and the other in the rear quadrant; to achieve this opposition, there is no pause after the front arm entered the water (unlike T.I. recommends), the arm has to pull the body in the water as fast as the other arm travels in the air; this is why the rotary style is faster, more muscular and tiring than the ovelapping style; (here is more technique that you are used too, already.) .) I do more technique in the workouts where I am than what it is said in this forum; the program where I am since November 2002 has more technique incorporated in it that what I have seen done everywhere else in USMS in eight years; how far does technique compared to conditioning take a late bloomer? not far; even in this forum I snicker at the proponents of technique who I know -don't let me name them, because they feel good to say 'technique'- that they remain slow; technique is second to conditioning, not first; from what I read coming off U.S. Swimming sources, it is conditioning that drives technique, not vice-versa; .) regarding my 'irrelevent' comment on 90% of Masters Swimmers being slower than me, I don't think it is irrelevent; it is a measure of character tenacity; Champions like Popov and Salnikov became such after their age-group swimming because of their character, not because of their natural ability compared to others; At my level, I despise -to their face- people who don't have the character to do things with the goal of improvement when they resort to cop out excuses and duck challenges in what they say that they do; .) to address what was posted in addition to my note here, I have to think...
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