Weight Training

Dominick I am talking about normal swimmers. I am not in exceptional shape, in fact very poor shape. But having done masters swimming for 20 years and weight workouts for 18, I can swim well in poor shape. I used to teach Nautilus back in the 80's, and have coached swimming for 15 years. Even when out of shape I can get to 800 pounds on the inclined squat machine. One thing I learned while taking the American Swim Coaches Assiciation educational courses is that any physiology book over 5-6 years old should be thrown in the trash.:D Certainly what I learned in college is totally been replaced with real knowledge. "Exercise Physiology: Energy, Nutrition and Human Performance," was released: 15 January, 2001 so at least it is recent. At $75 you must really be into it. How much of this large volume is devoted to swimming? And at what level, research level, NCAA Division III level, or the big boys like Stanford and Texas? I have read many research articles that begin with "using trained athletes" when they are using people so far down the athletic totum pole it is funny. I would like to read this if it has useful information directed at world class swimmers. And for the most part, researchers can come to any opinion they favor at the moment.:mad: But what is working in the real world to produce champions is usually pretty good science, or at least emperically good. That is why most researchers stay in the labs because they can't coach - except for the great Doc Councilman. Conniekat8, do you keep a log of your workouts? I would bet that your yardage is pretty high. Even the slow lanes get in 3000+ yards in an hour, the fast lanes get in 4500+. If you want to get faster, get in the gym as well as the pool. As little as 15% improvement in strength can make huge improvements in swimming times. There are certain small muscle groups that are indicators of how fast you can swim. You are really only as fast as your weakest muscles. Leonard Jansen, what you say has real merit at a very high athletic level. Most masters are like Rusty and myself. It really helps prevent injuries by swimming after weights. One thing many coaches do not do correctly is time trials. Most teams have sprints or time trials at the end of a workout. Doing them at the start would lead to injuries. But after 20 minutes all intermuscular glycogen is depleted, you are really not sprinting as you cannot utilize the anerobic first 10 -14 seconds that this system allows in trained swimmers. Swimming after 15 minutes of controlled warmup can lead to true time trials in workouts. Wow, this is a great thread, lots of good discussion. Nobody flaming anyone else, good information being exchanged. Minds being opened. Coach Wayne McCauley ASCA Level 5

Dominick I am talking about normal swimmers. I am not in exceptional shape, in fact very poor shape. But having done masters swimming for 20 years and weight workouts for 18, I can swim well in poor shape. I used to teach Nautilus back in the 80's, and have coached swimming for 15 years. Even when out of shape I can get to 800 pounds on the inclined squat machine. One thing I learned while taking the American Swim Coaches Assiciation educational courses is that any physiology book over 5-6 years old should be thrown in the trash.:D Certainly what I learned in college is totally been replaced with real knowledge. "Exercise Physiology: Energy, Nutrition and Human Performance," was released: 15 January, 2001 so at least it is recent. At $75 you must really be into it. How much of this large volume is devoted to swimming? And at what level, research level, NCAA Division III level, or the big boys like Stanford and Texas? I have read many research articles that begin with "using trained athletes" when they are using people so far down the athletic totum pole it is funny. I would like to read this if it has useful information directed at world class swimmers. And for the most part, researchers can come to any opinion they favor at the moment.:mad: But what is working in the real world to produce champions is usually pretty good science, or at least emperically good. That is why most researchers stay in the labs because they can't coach - except for the great Doc Councilman. Conniekat8, do you keep a log of your workouts? I would bet that your yardage is pretty high. Even the slow lanes get in 3000+ yards in an hour, the fast lanes get in 4500+. If you want to get faster, get in the gym as well as the pool. As little as 15% improvement in strength can make huge improvements in swimming times. There are certain small muscle groups that are indicators of how fast you can swim. You are really only as fast as your weakest muscles. Leonard Jansen, what you say has real merit at a very high athletic level. Most masters are like Rusty and myself. It really helps prevent injuries by swimming after weights. One thing many coaches do not do correctly is time trials. Most teams have sprints or time trials at the end of a workout. Doing them at the start would lead to injuries. But after 20 minutes all intermuscular glycogen is depleted, you are really not sprinting as you cannot utilize the anerobic first 10 -14 seconds that this system allows in trained swimmers. Swimming after 15 minutes of controlled warmup can lead to true time trials in workouts. Wow, this is a great thread, lots of good discussion. Nobody flaming anyone else, good information being exchanged. Minds being opened. Coach Wayne McCauley ASCA Level 5