improving butterfly

Former Member
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Hello, I'm a UK swimmer (41) who took up swimming following a running injury 4 years ago. A familiar scenario to many. My freestyle and breaststroke is OK and infact I do fairly well in a breaststroke set at the club. My butterfly is like a stone in the water however. I have chatted to other members , the coach, and watched the good guys, but it does not seem to happen. I get no real leg power on a kick in, kick out rhythym for each arm pull. I know the power comes from the stomach as well as the legs and I know rhythym is important. Has anybody had any great moments of enlightenment. No amount of drill work seems to make a huge difference. Any ideas ?
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  • Former Member
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    We all got you scared now, huh? ;) I don't think thumb position matters from a shoulder injury standpoint. The pull is where most of the stress is formed, and in both cases your pull is the same. Your arm entry position probably matters more than hand position. Since bringing your hands together is more of a shoulder stretch - it would go to reason that entering with your hands shoulder width apart is easier on your shoulders than bringing your hands together. The lesson I've learned this week (shoulder problem) is that I need to stretch more and put some concentration on the supporting joints and muscles. My stroke technique may have aggravated my shoulder to some degree, but I think my aggressive workouts after 20 years of no working out was the real cause.
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  • Former Member
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    We all got you scared now, huh? ;) I don't think thumb position matters from a shoulder injury standpoint. The pull is where most of the stress is formed, and in both cases your pull is the same. Your arm entry position probably matters more than hand position. Since bringing your hands together is more of a shoulder stretch - it would go to reason that entering with your hands shoulder width apart is easier on your shoulders than bringing your hands together. The lesson I've learned this week (shoulder problem) is that I need to stretch more and put some concentration on the supporting joints and muscles. My stroke technique may have aggravated my shoulder to some degree, but I think my aggressive workouts after 20 years of no working out was the real cause.
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