I like the article in swim Magazine about Rita Egan and Sylvia powell. These women are not your typical slim young swimmers that are elite swimmers but like the rest of us ordinary. Actually, given my previous background in swimming I'm also won of these average jills. As a youth I swam the 100 meter *** at 1:30 and as a 46 at 1:43.31. So, many of us do it for enjoyment and some exercise knowing that we will never be at the top of the pack. I think we should have more of these stories?. And Ion believe me you are not that bad. You did a 2:31 200 meter freestyle. I recently swam a 3:15. So don't feel bad and their is alot more competition in the men than in the women in 45 to 49. Not saying that their are not good swimmers in the women.
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Maybe you got something here, indeed:
Originally posted by cinc310
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Coming from poor living standards from Eastern Europe to upper-middle class in the United States explains some of your emphasis on how good of a swimmer you are and trying to impress others.
In a reflex subconscious way, for me everything is a goal you fight for, and is not the peachy slogans that Swim magazine is full of regarding its former age-group swimmers staying in shape in USMS, or its ordinary people, which both I find them to be superficial.
I developed thru trials a skeptical spirit for achievements, at odds with rampant stereotypes in Swim magazine and in this forum.
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Originally posted by laineybug
As I always told my daughter, "that may be the reason, but it isn't an excuse."
I don't know about your excuse to be slower than me.
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Originally posted by Ion Beza
I don't know about your excuse to be slower than me.
ROTF
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Originally posted by c j
Ion, what about our challenge? Your fault? Ducking me?
How bout justifying your attack on SWIM and overweights? I'm waiting eagerly for that explanation, as what you said earlier is nonsensical.
MSGrubb was right on. Absolutely right on.
And Ion, just to satisfy you, top ten (not %) in various years in three strokes. With some years on you. (Bet that'll keep ya busy!)
And, best of all, I'm not obsessed. I have a life outside the pool (which I've seen very little of this year). Hell, my kids don't even know what an individual sport is.
You're WAY out there . . . further than I thought after seeing your latest.
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Also, speaking of ethics, I point out that since yeaterday c j is scared and is ducking the giving of his name.
Speaking with c j is speaking with a masked person.
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Aiello,
.) have you read what followed what you quote?
.) did you keep up with what followed what you quote, and can you also quote what followed what you are already quoting?
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More of the same in your post, Elaine:
you are entangled in your local culture's cliches.
Step up to the contents of my posts, like for example to the content of my post preceding this one:
you will break from cliches, by doing it.
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Thanks to Paul for being a voice of reason, as usual.
Long ago I learned there are positive ions and negative ions...
Ion, Laineybug is really onto something, and you'd be smart to not look the other way. That's the best advice you'll ever get, and free. Quite a deal.
I'm really trying to find common ground with you, Ion. If only to repair the tone I'm afraid I created a couple of days ago . . .
I really can see your point about varying degrees of substance in SWIM's articles. Some are meatier than others. I'm with you in that I'm much more interested in reading about the science of our sport, repeats that Phelps could hold this year, or sets used by Specht to taper.
However, the "fluff" is useful too. Perhaps not for us, but for the majority of USMS members (recall, that same majority who have no interest in competition and times). Those are the kind of topics and writing that catch the eye of the fitness swimmer who needs a different kind of motivation.
Oh well. So many have tried to make this point to no avail. I feel I'm rambling needlessly, and will now shut up.
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I think that Ion is looking for something that SWIM does not provide, specifically a focus on the more "serious" Masters swimmer (ie those who train to compete). By necessity the articles cover a wide range of topics to appeal to the varied backgrounds and interests of all USMS members, the majority of whom apparently don't compete. As I said in an earlier post, there are many issues that are unique to the older swimmer; we are different physiologically from our younger counterparts, and have more health problems. We injure more easily and heal more slowly. We have less time to train and more outside commitments. There are fundamental questions like how often to train, how much yardage is "enough," how to avoid injury and where to turn when we are injured. Much of the information out there is written for younger swimmers and may not be relevant or appropriate for Masters. This is not meant as a criticism of SWIM, but an observation. Probably a publication like that would not attract enough of a following.
Did anyone notice that Ion's last 27 posts all say he has only posted 450 times? Has he finally reached the max and the post counter is broken?
Ion, if we all just admit you are quite possilby the greatest swimmer alive and that you are always right, will you stop? What will it take to have a good thread uninterrupted by your harsh criticisms off the entire swimming world, including actual aquatic animals?
I'm going to the pool now for a workout. Please don't post 12 more by the time I get back. This thread had some validity a while back. You saw to it that it is just another "Ion Beza is the best" thread.
