Swimming Finals at the World Championships in Barcelona, Spain

Originally posted by Bert Bergen Ion- You are wrong. Frank provided written documentation, numbers, and interviews to prove Biondi's "story." READ carefully what he wrote and UNDERSTAND his points. If you need clarification, ASK. You are debating in circles. ... I read it. He claimed to address my statements. I claim (including in my rebuttal to him, above) to address my statements better than he does. For example: telling me, that I am not qualified to speak about Olympians because at the USMS Nationals I rank in the bottom 20% in my age group? Once again: .) who gets me at the USMS Nationals has swimming VO2Max from kiddie age-group swimming, not for outdoing me in USMS and starting swimming as an adult past the growing phase of the body; .) I still look for who started swimming in the late 20s and overtakes me, but cannot find the person. In this experiment supporting my claim, you take Tim Montgomery (U.S.), mid 20s, fast twitch as in having the world record in the 100 meter dash in track, you put him now in the water hoping that as an adult he will develop enough swimming VO2Max in order to make the U.S. Olympic Team in swimming, and I wish you good luck. I repeat: I wish you good luck. Because, that's the type of challenge that I take in USMS. In spite of such an ignorant... I shake my head... He should know better, after reading about my stance on this for a while on the board, and seeing me in the shape of a slim, firm competitor in meets. Originally posted by Bert Bergen ... Please realize your "list" is simply that: yours. Enjoy it as we all have ones of our own. ... You realize it too, only now? It's long due. Like six days ago. I posted this yesterday: ......................................................................... No, Bert: Originally posted by Bert Bergen ... If a swimmers worth and place in history is based upon Olympic success along (in Ion's eye: gold medals),... ... A swimmer's "...place in history..." must be judged on about 50 different criteria, who knows... My 'flash-in-the-pan' criterion, is a criterion. For me. A criterion for me to claim this, on July 24: Originally posted by Ion Beza Confidential Information: ... Still, Popov went undefeated in the 100 meter free for eight years, got defeated a little in some major meets but kept in touch with challenging for #1 in major meets, and unlike a flash in the pan (see Matt Biondi (U.S.) before and after 1992) raised himself again to nail this one here. ... It then triggered the discussion of me defining the 'flash-in-the-pan' Olympic winner, as being an Olympic winner who doesn't win in other Olympics. .........................................................................

Originally posted by Bert Bergen Ion- You are wrong. Frank provided written documentation, numbers, and interviews to prove Biondi's "story." READ carefully what he wrote and UNDERSTAND his points. If you need clarification, ASK. You are debating in circles. ... I read it. He claimed to address my statements. I claim (including in my rebuttal to him, above) to address my statements better than he does. For example: telling me, that I am not qualified to speak about Olympians because at the USMS Nationals I rank in the bottom 20% in my age group? Once again: .) who gets me at the USMS Nationals has swimming VO2Max from kiddie age-group swimming, not for outdoing me in USMS and starting swimming as an adult past the growing phase of the body; .) I still look for who started swimming in the late 20s and overtakes me, but cannot find the person. In this experiment supporting my claim, you take Tim Montgomery (U.S.), mid 20s, fast twitch as in having the world record in the 100 meter dash in track, you put him now in the water hoping that as an adult he will develop enough swimming VO2Max in order to make the U.S. Olympic Team in swimming, and I wish you good luck. I repeat: I wish you good luck. Because, that's the type of challenge that I take in USMS. In spite of such an ignorant... I shake my head... He should know better, after reading about my stance on this for a while on the board, and seeing me in the shape of a slim, firm competitor in meets. Originally posted by Bert Bergen ... Please realize your "list" is simply that: yours. Enjoy it as we all have ones of our own. ... You realize it too, only now? It's long due. Like six days ago. I posted this yesterday: ......................................................................... No, Bert: Originally posted by Bert Bergen ... If a swimmers worth and place in history is based upon Olympic success along (in Ion's eye: gold medals),... ... A swimmer's "...place in history..." must be judged on about 50 different criteria, who knows... My 'flash-in-the-pan' criterion, is a criterion. For me. A criterion for me to claim this, on July 24: Originally posted by Ion Beza Confidential Information: ... Still, Popov went undefeated in the 100 meter free for eight years, got defeated a little in some major meets but kept in touch with challenging for #1 in major meets, and unlike a flash in the pan (see Matt Biondi (U.S.) before and after 1992) raised himself again to nail this one here. ... It then triggered the discussion of me defining the 'flash-in-the-pan' Olympic winner, as being an Olympic winner who doesn't win in other Olympics. .........................................................................