HIgh schools not allowing girls on outside teams

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I think its worst for girls to be denied decent practice. Many high school programs still have girls practice as much or even less yardage than master teams. I read this on the net, that one girl commented that they only practice 2,000 yards, while the boys I remember in high school had workouts of yardage between 5,000 to 10,000 befored they tapered. So, this ruling hurts girl swimmers more. This is the state of Missouri of course. This is from Phillip Whitten on the swimming world news on the internet. We complain about college programs being elimnated for boys or young men but what about the unfair treatment of girls in high school sports that can't practice on a USA swim Team during their high school years.
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    Hi Rob, I guess the issue would be participation and how Missouri defines this. Going back to my example of CIF - swimmers had to swim unattached in a USA (USS) swim meet during High School season, once High School swim season was over they could compete with their club team - so the CIF deemed participation as just the competing. It sounds like Missouri defined it as outside practice which could be rather sticky. If I was on the High School Golf team and went and played a round or even went to the driving range would I be in violation ? (probably not since I was on my own) But what would happen if someone came by and said I should adjust my grip, open /close my stance I just received some coaching so technically I would be in violation. Another issue would be what happens if a swimmer doesn't have a school swim team - where do they go for coaching ? Looks like some people in Missouri need to work on this, speaking from some first hand knowledge, most college coaches are going to look at USA meets / results - I know of one High School swimmer who was being threatened by the High School coach about lettering because they were going to a BIG USA meet and were going to miss a High School dual meet. This swimmer was being scouted by a few colleges and needed the exposure, so the USA meet was more important to the swimmer's future than the High School meet.
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    Hi Rob, I guess the issue would be participation and how Missouri defines this. Going back to my example of CIF - swimmers had to swim unattached in a USA (USS) swim meet during High School season, once High School swim season was over they could compete with their club team - so the CIF deemed participation as just the competing. It sounds like Missouri defined it as outside practice which could be rather sticky. If I was on the High School Golf team and went and played a round or even went to the driving range would I be in violation ? (probably not since I was on my own) But what would happen if someone came by and said I should adjust my grip, open /close my stance I just received some coaching so technically I would be in violation. Another issue would be what happens if a swimmer doesn't have a school swim team - where do they go for coaching ? Looks like some people in Missouri need to work on this, speaking from some first hand knowledge, most college coaches are going to look at USA meets / results - I know of one High School swimmer who was being threatened by the High School coach about lettering because they were going to a BIG USA meet and were going to miss a High School dual meet. This swimmer was being scouted by a few colleges and needed the exposure, so the USA meet was more important to the swimmer's future than the High School meet.
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