I came form California and I'm overweight. In fact I didn't take up swimming until again until I spent 3 years in Arizona. Now, there was a country club pool I could have swam there but I didn't. In fact in my area in Arizona there are public pools or health club pools as just are ready as there was in California. I think that many people back east are probably are into other sports more like figure Skating, in fact a top figure skater name Sasha Cohen went back there to get better coaching and a better facility. Also, just because Long Island isn't into swimming as much as the Pacific region doesn't mean they don't workout. Also, I enjoy indoor pools, something that both California and Arizona lack. The weather is not always rosy in either states. There are sometimes bad rain storms in California in the January or February period and Monsoon conditions in Arizona in the summer. The New Yorkers are a little wiser to built the indoor pools, in Tempe we had rain problems and the 800 was delayed until the next day and the 200 IM relays got cancel. Now back east and in the mid-west where pools are mainly indoors they could have continue on with the meet.
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As Ken says, New Jersey is not New York. Since you never actually lived there, I find it further astounding that you'd actually buy gas in NYC when it is significantly cheaper in New Jersey.
Also, if you had the Asphalt Green desk attendant validate your parking, it would have cost just a few bucks. There's that Savvy thing again. Didn't you see the signs or ask about where to park? For the couple of meets I actually drove to (from Long Island), I always found parking within a couple of blocks (even during the Holidays). If expense was such an issue, why didn't you just drive up to the Ridgewood Y or down to Rutgers?
After the first couple of times, most people would learn how to get around the challenges that the city presents. It would only seem barbaric to the ignorant, but you probably don't want to hear about that.
Oh, and as for "To Europeans like me, New York, New Jersey that's same garbage." If I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd make some comment about the Euro-trash who come here only to put down the freedoms and opportunity that they take advantage of here in the US, and how those guys get run out of town on a rail, tail between their legs.
But I'm not one to say that. the vast majority of people in NY & NJ (Europeans included) live and thrive here, quickly learning how to get around and enjoy all that the city (and the region) has to offer. Ditto for California and everywhere else in America.
So get off your high horse - any more comments like that and I'll be forced to permanently ban you from New York City.
Ken, please add Ion to "the list".
As Ken says, New Jersey is not New York. Since you never actually lived there, I find it further astounding that you'd actually buy gas in NYC when it is significantly cheaper in New Jersey.
Also, if you had the Asphalt Green desk attendant validate your parking, it would have cost just a few bucks. There's that Savvy thing again. Didn't you see the signs or ask about where to park? For the couple of meets I actually drove to (from Long Island), I always found parking within a couple of blocks (even during the Holidays). If expense was such an issue, why didn't you just drive up to the Ridgewood Y or down to Rutgers?
After the first couple of times, most people would learn how to get around the challenges that the city presents. It would only seem barbaric to the ignorant, but you probably don't want to hear about that.
Oh, and as for "To Europeans like me, New York, New Jersey that's same garbage." If I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd make some comment about the Euro-trash who come here only to put down the freedoms and opportunity that they take advantage of here in the US, and how those guys get run out of town on a rail, tail between their legs.
But I'm not one to say that. the vast majority of people in NY & NJ (Europeans included) live and thrive here, quickly learning how to get around and enjoy all that the city (and the region) has to offer. Ditto for California and everywhere else in America.
So get off your high horse - any more comments like that and I'll be forced to permanently ban you from New York City.
Ken, please add Ion to "the list".