Hi all,
First of all, if there's already a thread concerning this issue, I would like to say sorry for opening an already existing topic, but also would like to ask the moderators to link me the topic discussing this, before closing this thread.
The thing I wanna learn is being face-up underwater without having water in my nose but also without releasing a bubble, using breath control. (not nose clips, not my lips, not anything else, I wanna do this with breath control)
I have been practising this a lot now. Yet still can't manage to do it. All my acquaintances who ever tried or practiced it and can do it say that it is easy and they didn't need to practice it for too long. I can do it vertically, btw. So no, before you say, I am not instinctively sucking in water.
What I start to think is that what prevents me from being able to do this is that I have adenoids. Most of the time I can barely breath through one of my nostrils, which makes an unbalance between the 2 nostrils and makes it impossible to even the pressure at the same time in both of them, resulting in flooding my nose in any way. I also realized that I can either blow very little bubbles, or stop my breathing out completely, but between the two, to apply a pressure which is enough to keep water out but not enough to release a bubble, is just impossible for me. There is a gap in the breathing out I cannot acquire. Even if I do, one of my nose gets flooded because of the give unevenity.
What makes me very sad is that all of my acquaintances who ever tried or practised this, could master it easily. I have been suffering with it now for so long.
But my fear is that with adenoid I won't be able to master this. Anyone any experiences on this one?
Any tips, suggestions on how to practice?
Thanks
I’ll be honest I saw this thread resurrected and saw Jeff had the latest post and my first thought was, “why are you trying to artificially elevate your blood pressure on this wonderful Friday morning by necro-ing this thread?”
Then I saw you were replying to OP’s new post and my next thought was, “why is someone trying to artificially elevate Jeff’s blood pressure on this wonderful Friday morning by necro-ing this thread?”
I mean, seriously... this person went on an odyssey to learn how to lie face up underwater without breathing out their nose and ended up learning how to breathe out their nose, just slowly.
I mean, seriously... this person went on an odyssey to learn how to lie face up underwater without breathing out their nose and ended up learning how to breathe out their nose, just slowly.
This had me laughing so hard I choked on my popcorn.
So... you're still breathing out your nose. Gotcha.
I’ll be honest I saw this thread resurrected and saw Jeff had the latest post and my first thought was, “why are you trying to artificially elevate your blood pressure on this wonderful Friday morning by necro-ing this thread?”
Then I saw you were replying to OP’s new post and my next thought was, “why is someone trying to artificially elevate Jeff’s blood pressure on this wonderful Friday morning by necro-ing this thread?”
Hello everyone! I am not here to argue or something, but one of you mentioned if I succeed in learning this ability, I should post it.
I had septum deviance correction and nasal polyps removal surgery 2 months ago.
I went to a mind control course where I could learn to meditate correctly.
Went to EMDR therapy so I could overcome my trauma of not being able to do this.
Eventually, I went to the Buteyko breathing course, where I learnt everything about breathing and breath control.
Now, I can lie on my back on the bottom of the pool face-up with completely clear-of-water nasal cavity and sinuses, without the need to release a single bubble.
I've talked to hundreds of people who can do this, yet none of them could tell me the key for it. The Buteyko breathing course eventually helped me to figure out the key.
The key is to control your breathing out using only your lower diaphragm (completely avoid using the upper diaphragm or the muscles around your lungs) to have a stable hold of the whole "air column" in your respiratory system, and at the same time, open your intercostals during the breathout so the airflow becomes so much slighter and so much easier to control (yet even and constant) that you can barely feel it if you put your finger under your nose. This can be done completely consciously and you do not need to be a swimmer or a sportman or in good condition physically to be able to do this breathing technique.
I am sorry if I've offended anyone on this forum, but I felt the need to at least post the real key of this technique, because I think it is important to explain something to those who have difficulties with this. There may be no one interested in this technique on this forum, but a forum is for information to anyone who comes here.
All the best to everyone
The Buteyko breathing course eventually helped me to figure out the key.
The key is to control your breathing out using only your lower diaphragm (completely avoid using the upper diaphragm or the muscles around your lungs) to have a stable hold of the whole "air column" in your respiratory system, and at the same time, open your intercostals during the breathout so the airflow becomes so much slighter and so much easier to control (yet even and constant) that you can barely feel it if you put your finger under your nose. This can be done completely consciously and you do not need to be a swimmer or a sportman or in good condition physically to be able to do this breathing technique.
Thank you for the information
Good to see you mastered this.
This thread is one of the reasons I keep coming back to an otherwise rather quiet forum... amazing. I still can't actually picture what the end point is of the original poster.
I just saw this thread for the first time, and I'm trying to figure out what the start point is.
This had me laughing so hard I choked on my popcorn. This thread is one of the reasons I keep coming back to an otherwise rather quiet forum... amazing. I still can't actually picture what the end point is of the original poster.
