I am looking for a list of Olympian Masters and what Olympics and events they particpated in. If you have such a list or know where one is, please let me know. Individual anecdotes are OK too.
Background:
I want to write to "Splash" magazine and ask them to feature some of the people on such a list when they write about great swimmers. I'm tired of reading (and having my kids read) about so-and-so great swimmer, who got to the Olympics, did great, and now swimming is behind them (i.e. they don't swim anymore). On the "mission statement" of Splash, they give lip service to a lifelong involvement with swimming, but they never seem to come up with an example of such a person.
wiredknight
Take my name off your post immediately, Frank. I have had a poster threatening me via PMs, and I choose not to have my name or personal information on this forum at this time.
I was not referring to you. Your posts are invariably helpful and informative. I was refering to Gail Roper and her outright accusations against another poster, who she believes was not a 1968 olympic alternate, as you may or may not know. However, you did make a one sentence comment above that was quoted by Swimmer Bill. Perhaps he misquoted you. If so, glad to hear it. I have PM'd you what I meant by my reference to Deep Water.
I have just not been a fan of this, now second, public drubbing. Better to grow masters swimming in a different way.
As Stud notes, we are not all big cheeses.
I could not find any reference to Gail Roper and outright accusations against another poster. Yes I did detective work on this because I did not recall reading any of this. I will admit that I did not read the posts in fat swimmers. What I did find was only one reference and that is in post 42 and 43 of thread on fat swimmers. It seemed like a fair question at the time. forums.usms.org/showthread.php
I could not find any reference to Gail Roper and outright accusations against another poster. Yes I did detective work on this because I did not recall reading any of this. I will admit that I did not read the posts in fat swimmers. What I did find was only one reference and that is in post 42 and 43 of thread on fat swimmers. It seemed like a fair question at the time. forums.usms.org/showthread.php
Gail's accusatory post and my responsive post (and several others responding to Gail) were subsequently deleted at my request after I reported Gail's post. Her post clearly violated the forum rules.
I don't understand a lick of this alleged controversy but guess we must have angst about every topic now. It's a good thread minus the mindless bickering.
Let us not forget our Special Olympians, like Stud and Smith.
I was refering to Gail Roper ...Since you are throwing names out there, hopefully I can clarify Gail’s role in this. Gail has volunteered (for many many years) to maintain a list of swimming Olympians for the benefit of USMS members on behalf of the USMS History and Archives committee. Gail is a long time Masters swimmer and was a member of the 1952 Olympic team (swimming as Gail Peters).
As any good historian, Gail is looking for documentary evidence to be able to include individuals on the official roster of Masters Olympians. It is my understanding that Gail was unable to find and swimmer in question was unable to provide any documentation to support her claim. And there are plenty of sources of Olympic team and Olympic trial swimmers available on the web, through USA Swimming and the USOC. Hopefully the swimmer can produce this documentation and USMS can add her to our list. Until such documentation can be provided I stand behind Gail’s position to deny inclusion on the USMS Olympians roster.
I have no idea how Gail’s requests for documentation on behalf of USMS were turned into “outright accusations”.
Gail thanks for maintaining this for Masters Swimming!
Since you are throwing names out there, hopefully I can clarify Gail’s role in this. Gail has volunteered (for many many years) to maintain a list of swimming Olympians for the benefit of USMS members on behalf of the USMS History and Archives committee. Gail is a long time Masters swimmer and was a member of the 1952 Olympic team (swimming as Gail Peters).
As any good historian, Gail is looking for documentary evidence to be able to include individuals on the official roster of Masters Olympians. It is my understanding that Gail was unable to find and swimmer in question was unable to provide any documentation to support her claim. And there are plenty of sources of Olympic team and Olympic trial swimmers available on the web, through USA Swimming and the USOC. Hopefully the swimmer can produce this documentation and USMS can add her to our list. Until such documentation can be provided I stand behind Gail’s position to deny inclusion on the USMS Olympians roster.
I have no idea how Gail’s requests for documentation on behalf of USMS were turned into “outright accusations”.
Gail thanks for maintaining this for Masters Swimming!
She used the word "liar" on the forum, Rob. And this was prior to "resolution" of the documentation issue, I believe.
I agree with Matt's take on this topic.
She used the word "liar" on the forum, Rob. And this was prior to resolution of the documentation issue, I believe.
I agree with Matt's take on this topic.Would you have preferred imposter???
And for someone who agrees with Matt, then why all the continued fussing?
Would you have preferred imposter???
And for someone who agrees with Matt, then why all the continued fussing?
Because I am a bad person and like to defend friends.
I didn't like the way it was handled. She was jumped on and called a "liar" before she had any chance to defend herself privately.
Is Rob a cat?
I didn't like the way it was handled. She was jumped on and called a "liar" before she had any chance to defend herself privately.I’m not a big fan of how this is being handled either. And in reviewing deleted postings I found absolutely NO posting in which Gail called Donna or anyone else a "liar".
