Olympian Masters ?

I’m sure the feeling is mutual; I assume swimming is not terribly interested in the history of you. :mooning::mooning::cane::cry: Thanks for your comments, as worthless as they might be. :rolleyes:

Including me… In rooting around on the USA Swimming web site, I ran across another listing of US Olympians that included the athletes, alternates, coaches, trainers, committee members and others. A link is attached. I don’t know what name Donna swam under in ’68, but hopefully it is on this list. I would love to help bring this to closure. www.usaswimming.org/.../alltime_olympians.pdf This list designates certain swimmers (usually relay) as "Alternate" with the abbreviation "Alt." A search of the document finds 57 occurrences of the word "Alt." None of these appear to be the swimmer in question. In addition: A search on "Dashelle" turns up 0 occurrences. A search on "Stein" turns up 3 occurrences: Epstein, Steinseifer, and Steinburg. A search on "Carter" turns up 1 occurrence: Keith Eyre Carter, 1948. Searches on "Schillig", "Shillig", "Schilling", and "Shillig" turn up 0 occurrences. Anna Lea

Whoa, I'm just learning about Eleanor Holm, and it looks like she was my kinda gal! www.smh.com.au/.../1077676830498.html A Johnny Weissmuller and Maureen O'Sullivan autographed slip of paper recently sold on eBay for $650. eBay Item number: 290167651359 - closed Oct. 14th. O'Sullivan was Tarzan's "Jane" in six movies. According to Wikipedia, Holm performed with Weissmuller at the 1939 New York World's Fair, where she did 39 shows a week at Rose's "Aquacade". Later, she performed with Buster Crabbe. Anyone out there who knows about memorabilia and autographs? How would a magazine signed by Weissmuller and Eleanor Holm compare in value to the Weismuller / O'Sullivan autograph?

Whoa, I'm just learning about Eleanor Holm, and it looks like she was my kinda gal! She was also, ...sang, often dressed in a bathing suit, cowboy hat and high heels. She had partied in Hollywood and played bit parts in movies. During the crossing, she was invited by the shipping line to a party in the first-class area, where she drank through the night with journalists. This bears all the hallmarks of a Britney Spears sighting.

Rob: I see you are threatening to ban me with your recent post. I'm sorry you take exception to my remarks about Gail. Could you please clarify where I have threatened to ban you? Please PM me so we can allow this thread to return to its original objective. People have asked about the about reposting deleted items, I responded to Rich’s post not one yours by saying I’ll get in touch with the moderators “and see if they wish to reverse this decision and repost the items and ban the posters” You were not referenced by name or alias. To my knowledge we have not banned or suspended forum privileges for not violating your forum rules and guidelines. So assuming you haven’t violated any of our rules, I don’t see why you would feel threatened. Yes, I personally do take exception with your remarks about Gail I find them hollow and churlish; and it is unfortunate that you have chosen this public forum to slap her down. Gail’s question on the forum (“What Olympics did you "qualify" for and what country?”) is valid and her request for supporting documentation is what any good historian should do. And I support the great Gail is doing for UMSM. However when I act as a forum administrator, I attempt to place my personal bias aside and do my best to take action fairly.

For those of you interested in Swimming History..........go to Youtube and search for "Broad Ripple Pool". There is a video there of the 1952 Women's Olympic Trials and the 1953 Mens Nationals. Interesting to see Ford Konno swim with such a beautiful stroke and check out the lane lines! That is awesome! I'm really impressed with the work ISHOF is doiing these days. The video's a little rough, but if I had to guess I'd say you're the one in the front row during the plane boarding shot, just behind the "out" in Lookout Helsinki. Am I right? If not, which one are you? :applaud:

I second that. Paul

Sorry to disagree with Glider and others who feel that this thread has gone off track and want it closed down....but I VERY much disagree....this type of debate is extremally important. As I posted earlier the sad fact is that we live in a worold/time/place where lying and cheating is rampant...in society as well as in sport...my gosh...and Asian badmiton team was DQ'd recently for steroid use....and as i mentioned before people are constantly misrepresenting themselves as former military hero's...and lets not even get started on resume fraud. Donna....sorry but the fact remains that your credentials are in question and I'm sorry you see it as a personal attack...I really am not in your position and you are free to think/feel what you want but I really do think verification of things like this benefits all sides. As for what Gail posted...lesson learned to the moderators on deleting public posts. And last but not leastthe inflammed emotions about what people are writing/reading I would suggest to all parties that if you are REALLY serious about this stuff (and taking anything REALLY serious on public forums is a concern in and of itself)...I would suggest getting on the phone and having a REAL conversation....something of a lost art these days sadly!

I don't know what's up with Smith's lucidity these days but he's en feugo. I will also agree that a phone call is a good thing, except with the Smiths, where they are like a double barrel shotgun of pain via the phone lines.

I'll give you ten bucks for it Bill without the authentication even. And we'll call it a "small" (not medium or large) profit! meh, I think I'll hold on to it. A lot of swimmers have this wild streak, and it's a hoot to trace it back to Eleanor Holm!