I am looking for a list of Olympian Masters and what Olympics and events they particpated in. If you have such a list or know where one is, please let me know. Individual anecdotes are OK too.
Background:
I want to write to "Splash" magazine and ask them to feature some of the people on such a list when they write about great swimmers. I'm tired of reading (and having my kids read) about so-and-so great swimmer, who got to the Olympics, did great, and now swimming is behind them (i.e. they don't swim anymore). On the "mission statement" of Splash, they give lip service to a lifelong involvement with swimming, but they never seem to come up with an example of such a person.
wiredknight
Unfortunately, that's where it ends. I searched all 12 magazine issues in 1967, and most of 1968, but there were no occurrences of that swimmer.
FYI, in December of each year they published the Top 25 United States LC times for each event.
In 1966 the top 25 LC times ranged as follows:
Women, 100 Back: 1:08.6 to 1:13.7
Women, 200 Back: 2:29.3 to 2:40.5
Anna Lea
I think I found some more significant information that could be helpful to resolve this. In the January 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine, on page 9 they had the National Qualifing times for the Women's National Championships. They had only SCY, but after this meet they were going to revise the times from results of the spring championships and convert them to LCM standards for the upcoming 1968 Olympic Trials. The qualifing time for the 100 Yard Back was a 1:04.5 and for the 200 Yard Back it was 2:20.6
In the May 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine, on page 32 they have the qualifing time standards for the Women's Long Course National meet in Lincoln, Nebraska and the Women's Olympic Trials in Los Angeles. These time standards must have been made in a sanctioned AAU long course meet or AAU sanctioned time trial. The qualifing time for the 100 meter Back was 1:13.0 and for the 200 Back was 2:38.4
It appears to me from the information and evidence that has been gathered in the last two days, that the qualifing time standards for either the Nationals or the Olympic Trials were never made. The 1:18.2 LCM time is a good 5 seconds from the standard. If you were to look at the Annual lists for 1966, 1967, and 1968 that time is even close to the Top 25 US times. Even if we take the reported 200 Back LCM time of 2:48 its still a good 10 seconds from the standard. With this information, I believe the swimmer never swam in the 1968 Olympic Trials and that is the reason why she does not show up in any of the 1968 Olympic Trials results from the 1969 Annual AAU Year Book for Swimming, Diving, and Water Polo and the September 1968 issue of Swimming World.
In order to qualify for the 1968 Olympic Team, you must compete in the Olympic Trials and there were no exceptions. Every person on every Olympic Roster from the USOC, USOA, AAU, USA Swimming, Swimming World Magazine, and the ISHOF is consistent. There were 61 Swimmers named to the 1968 Olympic Team and they are listed by person by event in the September 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine. The 29 Women are on page 19 and the 32 men are on page 34. I compared all of the lists and they have the same people on them except that some list the Coaches and Administation people. The Chairman for the Men was William Lippman and the Chairman for the Women was Kenneth Treadway. There were 4 Olympic Coaches. Sherm Chavoor was the Head Coach for the Women and George Haines was the Head Coach of the Men. Frank Elm was the Assistant for Women and Don Grambril was the Assistant for the Men.
The record keeping was excellent and far from pathetic and quite remarkable for all of the organizations. They even have an Allumni Association that will help people in situations like these so they will be included as Olympians. I have provided a link to this organization. I sure hope this gets to the root of truth for all of us and we can put this behind.
www.usoc.org/olynewslettermayjune.pdf
Unfortunately, that's where it ends. I searched all 12 magazine issues in 1967, and most of 1968, but there were no occurrences of that swimmer.
FYI, in December of each year they published the Top 25 United States LC times for each event.
In 1966 the top 25 LC times ranged as follows:
Women, 100 Back: 1:08.6 to 1:13.7
Women, 200 Back: 2:29.3 to 2:40.5
Anna Lea
I think I found some more significant information that could be helpful to resolve this. In the January 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine, on page 9 they had the National Qualifing times for the Women's National Championships. They had only SCY, but after this meet they were going to revise the times from results of the spring championships and convert them to LCM standards for the upcoming 1968 Olympic Trials. The qualifing time for the 100 Yard Back was a 1:04.5 and for the 200 Yard Back it was 2:20.6
In the May 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine, on page 32 they have the qualifing time standards for the Women's Long Course National meet in Lincoln, Nebraska and the Women's Olympic Trials in Los Angeles. These time standards must have been made in a sanctioned AAU long course meet or AAU sanctioned time trial. The qualifing time for the 100 meter Back was 1:13.0 and for the 200 Back was 2:38.4
It appears to me from the information and evidence that has been gathered in the last two days, that the qualifing time standards for either the Nationals or the Olympic Trials were never made. The 1:18.2 LCM time is a good 5 seconds from the standard. If you were to look at the Annual lists for 1966, 1967, and 1968 that time is even close to the Top 25 US times. Even if we take the reported 200 Back LCM time of 2:48 its still a good 10 seconds from the standard. With this information, I believe the swimmer never swam in the 1968 Olympic Trials and that is the reason why she does not show up in any of the 1968 Olympic Trials results from the 1969 Annual AAU Year Book for Swimming, Diving, and Water Polo and the September 1968 issue of Swimming World.
In order to qualify for the 1968 Olympic Team, you must compete in the Olympic Trials and there were no exceptions. Every person on every Olympic Roster from the USOC, USOA, AAU, USA Swimming, Swimming World Magazine, and the ISHOF is consistent. There were 61 Swimmers named to the 1968 Olympic Team and they are listed by person by event in the September 1968 issue of Swimming World magazine. The 29 Women are on page 19 and the 32 men are on page 34. I compared all of the lists and they have the same people on them except that some list the Coaches and Administation people. The Chairman for the Men was William Lippman and the Chairman for the Women was Kenneth Treadway. There were 4 Olympic Coaches. Sherm Chavoor was the Head Coach for the Women and George Haines was the Head Coach of the Men. Frank Elm was the Assistant for Women and Don Grambril was the Assistant for the Men.
The record keeping was excellent and far from pathetic and quite remarkable for all of the organizations. They even have an Allumni Association that will help people in situations like these so they will be included as Olympians. I have provided a link to this organization. I sure hope this gets to the root of truth for all of us and we can put this behind.
www.usoc.org/olynewslettermayjune.pdf
