I am looking for a list of Olympian Masters and what Olympics and events they particpated in. If you have such a list or know where one is, please let me know. Individual anecdotes are OK too.
Background:
I want to write to "Splash" magazine and ask them to feature some of the people on such a list when they write about great swimmers. I'm tired of reading (and having my kids read) about so-and-so great swimmer, who got to the Olympics, did great, and now swimming is behind them (i.e. they don't swim anymore). On the "mission statement" of Splash, they give lip service to a lifelong involvement with swimming, but they never seem to come up with an example of such a person.
wiredknight
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I pop in every now and then to read about myself. I am amazed at the investigative work in progress, but I don’t think any of you are ready for Scotland Yard as yet. To those of you who are genuinely trying to find documents to validate my claim, I thank you a lot. To those of you who have sinister reasons, Gail and partners, it’s turned into quite a witchhunt.
I say this because that’s what this now is. Last April, after Gail got wind that I was making a claim as an alternate, she contacted Bill V., and thus, the background detective work began. All of the files you are looking at were also scrutinized over a several week period. All of this was done off-forum. The end conclusion was I was not “AKC” registered and they even thought I had contradictory statements. I didn’t think I had; I just may have missed a few details because 40 years have gone by.
Gail also posted on the forum a pretty heavy insinuation that I was not a truth-teller. She did this on April 24th and I believe the mods deleted those on April 25th. I have them. The reason this is now a witchhunt is this ground has been covered before and was closed. It has now resurfaced on a public forum. I’ve seen Gail post statements like Jane Hall didn’t remember me, well, I don’t remember her either, sorry Jane. And that I had never swum for Santa Clara. I never said I did, I said I trained AT Santa Clara. I was not a club member. I find it interesting that Gail has so many others doing this work for her. She never contacts me; did once, but has been silent since.
When I saw that Frank Thompson mentioned he had found something, I had great hope. But it turned out to be pretty insignificant. And then I gave Fortress permission to post a photo or two, the most meaningful being the State Awards Blocks where I was standing as number one. .
And now today someone has accused me of not being the person in that awards photo. Good grief! My measly State Record is, too, a fraud. My entire point here is two-fold: anything I show that confirms my statements is completely disregarded by the golden ones in charge. Any news articles are “frauds.” Thus, the outcome will always be that I had no right to make the claim I did. A very well designed machine here.
After Bill V did not find my claims authentic, the word “expunged records” entered my thought process. My AAU state and national records are non-existent even though I have one photo here in Roatan that appears to offset that and was posted yesterday but has now been deemed a fraud. I had mentioned several times on the forum that my USMS Top Ten records, 7 of them, are missing. Only one is posted. Where did those go? I have those little patches that are sent, so did I purchase them somewhere or sew them myself? Hardly.
You people won’t find anything on me; I’m a ghost swimmer. Most all of my swim accomplishments are completely missing. And if you think that this is NOT due to pathetic record-keeping or intentional deletion, wait until it happens to you. Now I do realize that before results were done electronically, more of this kind of thing could happen; that makes sense. And now even with electronic record-keeping, where are my USMS Top Ten Times? This leads me to the word expunged. No one at USMS has offered any kind of explanation; I was ignored.
Additionally, I have been called an imposter, a charlatan, a liar, and just because the name Donna was not sitting right in front of those, doesn’t get you off the hook. Since I am the “study subject”, who else would those words be meant for?
And gosh, I had enjoyed this forum so much, and there are more good people than not here, and to all of those good people (you know I know who you are), I have a lot of respect for you. Thanks for having an open mind. Instead of any kind of apology that this was handled badly and for a second time and now publicly, please donate to the charity. By the way, what happens when you can’t find my records? Am I a fraud or were my records lost? I know what Gail says because she can't be wrong; just ask her. I'm ticked but trying to keep it together.
Donna
I pop in every now and then to read about myself. I am amazed at the investigative work in progress, but I don’t think any of you are ready for Scotland Yard as yet. To those of you who are genuinely trying to find documents to validate my claim, I thank you a lot. To those of you who have sinister reasons, Gail and partners, it’s turned into quite a witchhunt.
I say this because that’s what this now is. Last April, after Gail got wind that I was making a claim as an alternate, she contacted Bill V., and thus, the background detective work began. All of the files you are looking at were also scrutinized over a several week period. All of this was done off-forum. The end conclusion was I was not “AKC” registered and they even thought I had contradictory statements. I didn’t think I had; I just may have missed a few details because 40 years have gone by.
Gail also posted on the forum a pretty heavy insinuation that I was not a truth-teller. She did this on April 24th and I believe the mods deleted those on April 25th. I have them. The reason this is now a witchhunt is this ground has been covered before and was closed. It has now resurfaced on a public forum. I’ve seen Gail post statements like Jane Hall didn’t remember me, well, I don’t remember her either, sorry Jane. And that I had never swum for Santa Clara. I never said I did, I said I trained AT Santa Clara. I was not a club member. I find it interesting that Gail has so many others doing this work for her. She never contacts me; did once, but has been silent since.
When I saw that Frank Thompson mentioned he had found something, I had great hope. But it turned out to be pretty insignificant. And then I gave Fortress permission to post a photo or two, the most meaningful being the State Awards Blocks where I was standing as number one. .
And now today someone has accused me of not being the person in that awards photo. Good grief! My measly State Record is, too, a fraud. My entire point here is two-fold: anything I show that confirms my statements is completely disregarded by the golden ones in charge. Any news articles are “frauds.” Thus, the outcome will always be that I had no right to make the claim I did. A very well designed machine here.
After Bill V did not find my claims authentic, the word “expunged records” entered my thought process. My AAU state and national records are non-existent even though I have one photo here in Roatan that appears to offset that and was posted yesterday but has now been deemed a fraud. I had mentioned several times on the forum that my USMS Top Ten records, 7 of them, are missing. Only one is posted. Where did those go? I have those little patches that are sent, so did I purchase them somewhere or sew them myself? Hardly.
You people won’t find anything on me; I’m a ghost swimmer. Most all of my swim accomplishments are completely missing. And if you think that this is NOT due to pathetic record-keeping or intentional deletion, wait until it happens to you. Now I do realize that before results were done electronically, more of this kind of thing could happen; that makes sense. And now even with electronic record-keeping, where are my USMS Top Ten Times? This leads me to the word expunged. No one at USMS has offered any kind of explanation; I was ignored.
Additionally, I have been called an imposter, a charlatan, a liar, and just because the name Donna was not sitting right in front of those, doesn’t get you off the hook. Since I am the “study subject”, who else would those words be meant for?
And gosh, I had enjoyed this forum so much, and there are more good people than not here, and to all of those good people (you know I know who you are), I have a lot of respect for you. Thanks for having an open mind. Instead of any kind of apology that this was handled badly and for a second time and now publicly, please donate to the charity. By the way, what happens when you can’t find my records? Am I a fraud or were my records lost? I know what Gail says because she can't be wrong; just ask her. I'm ticked but trying to keep it together.
Donna
