Olympian Masters ?

Me too!!! I stand by my statements: 1 – Gail (Peters) Roper is an Olympian 2 – Gail is an volunteer historian working for the benefit of US Masters Swimming 3 – Gail NEVER called Donna or anyone else a liar on the USMS discussion Forum I agree. And hopefully those who are being cruel to Gail can get beyond this and possibly even help her by finding and providing information from USA Swimming, FINA, USOC, USOA, or IOC; which can be used to support Donna. And maybe, just maybe this thread can return to its original intent. I agree with #1 and #2. Semantics aside or perhaps because of semantics, we will have to agree to disagree with respect to #3. I understand your defense of Gail as a dedicated volunteer. No one can doubt her dedication and hard work, and I did not do that. I merely believe that, in this isolated incident, her conduct was unprofessional. Her posts have been deleted, which confirms this. And others in USMS have suggested she did not act in the most appropriate fashion. If you do not agree, that is fine. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, as I am entitled to mine. With respect to your second paragraph, I find it to be cruel. I don't really understand how questioning whether it is appropriate to denounce someone as a fraud on a public forum is cruel of me. I understand that Gail and others have been investigating. I also understand that paperwork from that pre-internet era can be spotty, that there has been no roster of 1968 Olympic athletes and alternates produced, and that there have been no live interviews. In light of these facts, I'm not sure one, especially a forum poster, can decisively conclude that a fraud has been perpetrated. Perhaps it has. But to say I am cruel and have shown my "true colors" for suggesting it is preferable to give someone the benefit of the doubt (and not attack them) on a public forum is odd and, yes, cruel. There are many worse traits in life than to defend someone that was attacked and perhaps wrongly accused. It has been known to happen in our society. If defending someone from an out-of-the-blue attack on an nsr thread or showing some loyalty makes me a bad person, I guess I am willing to live with it. Frankly, I think of myself as a very honest person, albeit admittedly outspoken. Although you don't know me IRL, people who do would certainly vouch for my integrity. It's easy enough to malign someone. I don't always accept it as gospel. You have faith in Gail, and I appreciate that. But you didn't need to take me down, in your position, for wondering whether someone might be innocent or disliking the public manner in which the accusation was made on the discussion forum. I will leave and let everyone else continue the, uh, discussion. If you would like to see how an Olympian master swam this weekend, you can check the results from the Sprint Classic. She acquitted herself quite nicely.

Me too!!! I stand by my statements: 1 – Gail (Peters) Roper is an Olympian 2 – Gail is an volunteer historian working for the benefit of US Masters Swimming 3 – Gail NEVER called Donna or anyone else a liar on the USMS discussion Forum I agree. And hopefully those who are being cruel to Gail can get beyond this and possibly even help her by finding and providing information from USA Swimming, FINA, USOC, USOA, or IOC; which can be used to support Donna. And maybe, just maybe this thread can return to its original intent. I agree with #1 and #2. Semantics aside or perhaps because of semantics, we will have to agree to disagree with respect to #3. I understand your defense of Gail as a dedicated volunteer. No one can doubt her dedication and hard work, and I did not do that. I merely believe that, in this isolated incident, her conduct was unprofessional. Her posts have been deleted, which confirms this. And others in USMS have suggested she did not act in the most appropriate fashion. If you do not agree, that is fine. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion, as I am entitled to mine. With respect to your second paragraph, I find it to be cruel. I don't really understand how questioning whether it is appropriate to denounce someone as a fraud on a public forum is cruel of me. I understand that Gail and others have been investigating. I also understand that paperwork from that pre-internet era can be spotty, that there has been no roster of 1968 Olympic athletes and alternates produced, and that there have been no live interviews. In light of these facts, I'm not sure one, especially a forum poster, can decisively conclude that a fraud has been perpetrated. Perhaps it has. But to say I am cruel and have shown my "true colors" for suggesting it is preferable to give someone the benefit of the doubt (and not attack them) on a public forum is odd and, yes, cruel. There are many worse traits in life than to defend someone that was attacked and perhaps wrongly accused. It has been known to happen in our society. If defending someone from an out-of-the-blue attack on an nsr thread or showing some loyalty makes me a bad person, I guess I am willing to live with it. Frankly, I think of myself as a very honest person, albeit admittedly outspoken. Although you don't know me IRL, people who do would certainly vouch for my integrity. It's easy enough to malign someone. I don't always accept it as gospel. You have faith in Gail, and I appreciate that. But you didn't need to take me down, in your position, for wondering whether someone might be innocent or disliking the public manner in which the accusation was made on the discussion forum. I will leave and let everyone else continue the, uh, discussion. If you would like to see how an Olympian master swam this weekend, you can check the results from the Sprint Classic. She acquitted herself quite nicely.