I would like any suggestions on how to do this with a tape. (This is pretty non controversial, right?) I have spent a career trying to figure out how to measure things, and I am curious. From the comments in this group, the problems I mention below must have been solved.
First you stretch the tape along the side of the pool. That would work well, but how are you sure you are aligned with the walls, or that the walls are square? Also, you need to measure in several lanes, rather than the side.
So you get in the pool and hold the tape against the walls, 1 foot below water level. The problem is that the tape sags, and any measurement will overestimate the length of the pool by a significant amount. You could pull the tape tighter, but I suspect before the tape gets tight enough, your tape will stretch or break. (I used to assign that as an intro physics problem). I suppose you could build a support structure across the pool, but that would be a pain in the neck, and you would have to move it from lane to lane.
Getting the water out of the pool would make that support structure easier, but the water weighs a lot. It almost certainly causes the walls to bend outward, especially in the deeper pools. (How do the people who design above ground, temporary competition pools do it?) I don't know how much the walls will move, but how do you account for that? (and by the way, how do the masons make sure their plaster/tiling is correct in an empty pool?)
Here is an idea - you lower the water level by a foot or so, and build a *floating* support structure for the tape. I think that would solve most of the problems. Has anyone done that?
'those things based on radio waves' you're talking about are sophisticated pieces of equipement that run in the range of $ 50K to 80K or more, and are used for high precision surveys. Not something that you pick up at Home Depot, not something that's even sold there.
Those things based on radio waves in the consumer market are what I'm referencing. Products such as this:
Irwin Laser Tape at Amazon.com
Those _are_ around $50, and yes, they _are_basically worthless for anything more detailed than an inch or two.
Back to the Disto-Pro, still, you have the issue of laser near the water, and also, even though the equipment claims to be +/- 1.5mm, depending on how you line it up, you're going to get bigger discrepancies than that.
Well, I've measured a couple of pools with the Disto Pro, and signed my name to several pool length certification forms as fully believing that my measurements were accurate to the tolerances specified by USMS.
No, I'm not a certified surveyor, and never claimed to be. I feel a whole lot more confident with our laser measurements than I was with any metal tape measurements we did before.
-Rick
'those things based on radio waves' you're talking about are sophisticated pieces of equipement that run in the range of $ 50K to 80K or more, and are used for high precision surveys. Not something that you pick up at Home Depot, not something that's even sold there.
Those things based on radio waves in the consumer market are what I'm referencing. Products such as this:
Irwin Laser Tape at Amazon.com
Those _are_ around $50, and yes, they _are_basically worthless for anything more detailed than an inch or two.
Back to the Disto-Pro, still, you have the issue of laser near the water, and also, even though the equipment claims to be +/- 1.5mm, depending on how you line it up, you're going to get bigger discrepancies than that.
Well, I've measured a couple of pools with the Disto Pro, and signed my name to several pool length certification forms as fully believing that my measurements were accurate to the tolerances specified by USMS.
No, I'm not a certified surveyor, and never claimed to be. I feel a whole lot more confident with our laser measurements than I was with any metal tape measurements we did before.
-Rick