New Organization for Adult Swimmers

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Swim info has this article: swiminfo.com/.../3387.asp Which discusses a new organization for competitive swimming called Adult Swimming Association. Apparantly the initiator is unhappy with the various things that USMS does that are not directly related to competitive swimming, such as the promotion of fitness. Also, he is unhappy with the structure of the national meets. He proposes several variations of the age group structure. Any thoughts or insights?
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    I went to the site and read through the whole thing like others did. Lots of what he is proposing has been talked about in these discussion boards as well as at the convention. Why not sanction the use of 25 yard/meter races? When this was discussed, something came out about our insurance being invalidated if we had events other than the standard and 25s wouldn't be standard. Seems like 25s would add some fun to meets and might get more people to compete. Since his goal seems to be centered around competition then this makes a lot of sense. I don't see how it would hurt USMS either. If Dr. Ron swims a 54+ 100 SCM IM in a Grand Prix meet then why isn't it a Masters world record? Any 35 year old want to say they've been faster? He was a Masters swimmer last summer. I don't know if he is in 2002. I have to think the sanction process and level of officiating and pool measurement at the Grand Prix meets is every bit as good as the average Masters meet. I know we've made some steps toward making it easier to set Masters records in non-Masters meets but why should it be any harder than if he'd done it at the USMS Arizona State Champs? I don't mean to imply that Dr Ron cares. He probably doesn't and hope he doesn't mind if I use him as an example. He's unhappy with Nationals. That's not a new topic. It's certainly be debated here and there's always a split decision. He wants your age to be your real age and not some artificial age. Next year, I'll be 44 in a SCY meets in Jan and Feb. 45 in a SCM meet in March, 44 in a SCY meets in April and May and 45 for LCM. And People thought it was confusing when you had to remember if your toes could be above or below the water for a back start. Single year age groups seems like a bit much and the whole emphasis on records seems like a marketing ploy to get people to sign up. I think it would be a mistake to just write it off. Not everything seems like a bad idea.
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    I went to the site and read through the whole thing like others did. Lots of what he is proposing has been talked about in these discussion boards as well as at the convention. Why not sanction the use of 25 yard/meter races? When this was discussed, something came out about our insurance being invalidated if we had events other than the standard and 25s wouldn't be standard. Seems like 25s would add some fun to meets and might get more people to compete. Since his goal seems to be centered around competition then this makes a lot of sense. I don't see how it would hurt USMS either. If Dr. Ron swims a 54+ 100 SCM IM in a Grand Prix meet then why isn't it a Masters world record? Any 35 year old want to say they've been faster? He was a Masters swimmer last summer. I don't know if he is in 2002. I have to think the sanction process and level of officiating and pool measurement at the Grand Prix meets is every bit as good as the average Masters meet. I know we've made some steps toward making it easier to set Masters records in non-Masters meets but why should it be any harder than if he'd done it at the USMS Arizona State Champs? I don't mean to imply that Dr Ron cares. He probably doesn't and hope he doesn't mind if I use him as an example. He's unhappy with Nationals. That's not a new topic. It's certainly be debated here and there's always a split decision. He wants your age to be your real age and not some artificial age. Next year, I'll be 44 in a SCY meets in Jan and Feb. 45 in a SCM meet in March, 44 in a SCY meets in April and May and 45 for LCM. And People thought it was confusing when you had to remember if your toes could be above or below the water for a back start. Single year age groups seems like a bit much and the whole emphasis on records seems like a marketing ploy to get people to sign up. I think it would be a mistake to just write it off. Not everything seems like a bad idea.
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